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Cat & Cloud Podcast

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Cafe Imports Source "Where Do We Go From Here" Panel hosted by Chris Baca - Ep# 456

Jun 29, 202642 min
Summary

In this episode of the Cat and Cloud Podcast, host Chris Baca moderates a panel discussion recorded live at the World of Coffee conference in San Diego. The conversation features a diverse group of coffee business owners, including Layla Gumbari of Gilder Coffee, Kali Solak of Cafe Regina, and Jeremy Lyman of Birch Coffee. Together, they dive into the realities of managing cafes and roasteries in an evolving industry, focusing on the operational and leadership strategies necessary to maintain a healthy business. The discussion covers a wide range of topics, including the challenges of balancing food programs with coffee service, the importance of data-driven decision-making, and the logistics of handling annual price increases. A significant portion of the conversation is dedicated to organizational culture, with the panelists sharing insights on hiring for personality over experience, managing labor costs, and the importance of fostering a supportive, high-morale work environment. By prioritizing both fiscal responsibility and team wellbeing, the guests offer practical wisdom for navigating the day-to-day complexities of modern coffee operations while staying focused on long-term growth and sustainability.

Updated Jul 7, 2026

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Cat & Cloud Podcast 

Cat & Cloud Coffee www.catandcloud.com/

Cafe Imports Source "Where Do We Go From Here" Panel hosted by Chris Baca 

Episode Summary

Recorded live at the World of Coffee, in San Diego, CA, Cafe Imports hosts the second SOURCE event, a panel discussion focused on “Where do we go from here?” - where business leaders in coffee tackle issues facing the industry today. Cat & Cloud’s own, Chris Baca moderates a candid conversation with cafe and roasting business owners from across the country. Jeremy Lyman (Birch Coffee) in Brooklyn, Laila Ghambari (Guilder Coffee) in Portland, and Kali Solack (Café Regina) in Puerto Rico share what they're seeing in coffee retail today, from profitability and menu strategy to pricing, staffing, and company culture.  In Part 1, the discussion explores whether cafes should expand food programs or focus on doing fewer things exceptionally well, how operators use data to make smarter decisions, and why many business owners deal with rising costs and raising their prices. The panel also dives into employee retention, creating healthy workplaces, and the role culture plays in long-term business success. 

Whether you're running one cafe or multiple locations, this conversation offers practical lessons from operators actively building businesses in today's coffee landscape.

Chapters

00:00 Welcome & Panel Introductions
 04:30 What's Changing in Coffee Retail Right Now?
 06:30 Food Programs vs Coffee-First Cafes
 14:00 Evaluating Real Guest Desires
 17:00 Revenue, Labor & Profitability Metrics
 20:00 Price Increases  
 25:30 Measuring Cultural Success
 28:15 Keep Your Team Happy
 32:15 Finding Benefits your Staff Wants
 38:20 Staff and Retention 


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Cat & Cloud Coffee was founded in 2016 by three friends who believe experiences and connections shape our lives. Former barista champions and lifelong coffee professionals, they envisioned a better way to do business and set out to create a values-driven organization that put culture first.

Our mission is to inspire connection by creating memorable experiences. Whether it's with guests in our 4 retail locations in Santa Cruz, our team members, or our wholesale partners across the country, we strive to leave everyone better than we found them. 

The Cat & Cloud Podcast is a space for us to share our experiences and adventures in coffee and business in hopes of inspiring more people to create culture and values-driven organizations. 


Hosted by Chris Baca and Jared Truby

Produced by Casey Ryan

June 2026


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