Magic Podcasts

Penn's Sunday School

Penn's Sunday School

Join legendary magician Penn Jillette and performer Matt Donnelly for a weekly deep dive into the fascinating, the absurd, and the profoundly human. Penn’s Sunday School is a wide-ranging conversation that moves seamlessly from the high-pressure world of professional stage magic and touring to the quiet, introspective moments of aging and personal growth. Each week, the duo dissects the news of the moment with a signature blend of skepticism and curiosity, often landing on unexpected topics like the intricacies of movie history, the philosophy of comedy, or the art of lifelong learning. While the show is grounded in the reality of performing arts—offering raw, behind-the-scenes stories about the mishaps and creative hurdles that come with live production—it frequently pivots toward broader cultural inquiries. Whether they are discussing the complexities of language learning, the psychological weight of fame, or recounting harrowing stories of resilience and human spirit, Penn and Matt maintain a candid, conversational atmosphere that feels like an open-ended dialogue among friends. The show celebrates the tension between structure and spontaneity, offering listeners a space where professional expertise meets the chaotic, hilarious reality of everyday life. If you enjoy thoughtful commentary on the creative process, honest reflections on career evolution, and a healthy dose of intellectual exploration, pull up a chair for a conversation that is as thought-provoking as it is entertaining.