Penn's Sunday School
Penn's Sunday School
Join legendary magician Penn Jillette and performer Matt Donnelly for a weekly deep dive into the fascinating, the absurd, and the profoundly human. Penn’s Sunday School is a wide-ranging conversation that moves seamlessly from the high-pressure world of professional stage magic and touring to the quiet, introspective moments of aging and personal growth. Each week, the duo dissects the news of the moment with a signature blend of skepticism and curiosity, often landing on unexpected topics like the intricacies of movie history, the philosophy of comedy, or the art of lifelong learning. While the show is grounded in the reality of performing arts—offering raw, behind-the-scenes stories about the mishaps and creative hurdles that come with live production—it frequently pivots toward broader cultural inquiries. Whether they are discussing the complexities of language learning, the psychological weight of fame, or recounting harrowing stories of resilience and human spirit, Penn and Matt maintain a candid, conversational atmosphere that feels like an open-ended dialogue among friends. The show celebrates the tension between structure and spontaneity, offering listeners a space where professional expertise meets the chaotic, hilarious reality of everyday life. If you enjoy thoughtful commentary on the creative process, honest reflections on career evolution, and a healthy dose of intellectual exploration, pull up a chair for a conversation that is as thought-provoking as it is entertaining.
Updated Jul 8, 2026
Episodes
You’re Asking if There’s an Adult?
Planning a chaotic stage show with Piff the Magic Dragon reveals a glaring lack of adult supervision in the room.
Oops, This Deck of Cards Really Is Shuffled!
A bungled magic prop and a locked-out key turn an ordinary set into an exercise in high-stakes improvisation.
Scorpions and Spiders
The secret behind the spider scene in Dr. No and the truth about how film sets handle dangerous arachnids.
Triangular Triscuits and Other Snacks
Bob Dylan shares his reflections on the challenges and freedoms of turning eighty in this wide-ranging conversation.
Carr Hagerman - Out Of The Blue
Carr Hagerman shares his harrowing journey from a false rape allegation to full exoneration and finding inner peace.
You Don’t Add Cars to a Moving Train
A retired cop shares how he mastered Spanish well enough to go undercover as the grandson of a Nazi to catch dealers.
A Y’all and a Wicked
Penn delves into his latest draconian pursuit to eliminate all plastic and heavy metals from his daily routine.
I Can't Take It!
A frustrating Atlantic City excursion and nonsensical AI censorship trigger a comedic breaking point.
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