Future of Summer House and Final Thoughts

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Of course. And I love it because it's like like I texted you, I was like, hey, like can we talk about Summer House soon on my podcast? And then you were like, well, you're gonna be on nostalgia now. And I was like, what are we talking about? And then you were like Summerhouse? And I was like, okay, forget. It's so funny. It's like I always just want to talk to my friends, my online friends about the shows that I talk about all the time, but I w to do it because you guys are also funny. So I'm like everybody should hear this So but then I was like, o I to talk to Kelly about it is be recorded. That's fine. That's fine. o. ye. Yeah. And boy do we have a lot to talk about So what were your thoughts about like the first part of the reunion? Be I personally think they've done a great job keeping the momentum like the entire time. Yeah, I love it. I'm having a great time watching it. I will say this that it is starting to get frustrating that Amanda and West are not really saying anything. That is really pissing me off because even like in part two, when like Daris says all those things about West, West is like Yeah, I agree. What do you mean you agree? Like what does that mean? or like when he like she gave the whole monologue to Amanda? she's like, yeah, Okaykay. like, what are we doing here? Wake up. Yeah, it's really strange how even with like Raquele, Raquel would like nod her head and be like, yes, and I'm sorry. Yeah. even Raquel Yeah. It's wild to watch these people like Not only not fight back really, other than Amanda saying like, fuck you to Sierra right off the bat. L they're so defensive and not apologetic. I'm like clearly you didn't talk to anyone before you went on this. It's shocking It's audacious. Cara Berry said last night on threads that everyone's like, what kind of drugs is Amanda on? And she said, It's a thousand milligrams of audacity. That's what she's on. becausecause like why else would you have this energy? And a thing I noticed about Amanda is that when her entire body language changes when Wes starts arguing with Kyle M And I think that's really what it is. She's horny for man who defends her honor But she doesn't really, I think, have a connection with West outside of being Kyiles, you know sad ex wife or whatever. Yeah or wife. I don't I don't I think that there's a few things that they bond over. I think they bond over the fact that Kyle sucks and I think they bond over that they actually don't like Sierra. I also think they do drugs together. And I think that's a big thing people aren't talking about is like the drug uses Johns Summerhouse, evenven though Carl swears he's never seen Kyle do drugs, I will never believe you, Carl I think you're great. you're sweet Don't believe you. Be there is no way that you stay up all night and then wake up and run unless you're taking Aderol. And I know people will be like, when you're on Aderol, you don't want to eat. I'm like I've abed Adderol and I have eaten on Adderol. B me. it can be done. Yeah. I think that there's a lot of drugs happening. Similarly to how this part two, they all just acted like Kyle like We've never seen Kyle kiss a person who's not Amandtha before. We've never never seen it. like it's like this thing that I think they all agree to of like things that they will and won't talk about. you know. I think I think we're just waiting for the day that Kyle Cook like bursts and, you know, says something about himself. L it's like the way it took him so long to be like Carl showed up at work without a laptop, Cokeed at us. Right. He was like more mad about the laptop not being there than like the cocaine because I think the cocaine was like, whatever. We're cocaine Yeah. Can you imagine he showed up to work without a laptop? It's like that's a man who doesn't care about his job So yeah, I think so. I think there's a lot of drugs. I am just sick of everyone treating Kyle like Princess Diana. It's become too much Boy he has the hair He does, he does have the hair, looks like Dorinda a little bit and Dorinda kind of looks likea, I get it, I get it. But it's just too much the rewriting of history when it comes to Kyle. Am I saying what Amanda did is okay? No. And I'm sure Amanda wasn't a delight to be married to either. Kiles a mess Not Kyle's a mess. Kyle's a disaster of a human being guys. L we don't need to sit here and act like he was some like amazing husband him being like, I went on benders when I would leave 'use like I would go on benders 'cause you weren't there, Amanda. If you were there, I wouldn't be going on a bender. That's not true She stopped going out with you because you kept going on benders. And then she stopped going out with you and you continued to go on benders. That is what you did. Like look, I get it. Amanda is a terrible friend. Those two should have never gotten married. There are so many reasons to hate her. That outfit she's wearing is absurd The hair is dumb. She's smug, she's annoying All those things. She deserves to be cuss out by her friends I still don't believe, I don't care how much how long your wife has not given you sex which is gross. I cannot believe in twenty twenty six, we're sitting here talking about like Well, he had to go make out with somebody. He didn't get sex for four years. Can you believe it guys? That's absurd. Okaykay We cannot be sitting here and talking likeike I'm not going to sit here and explain to people how like regressive that type of thinking is. Like you don't understand, then I don't know what to tell you. Like then your values are very different than mine and we will', you know, we will just disagree. but them acting like Kyle is like so good, L no, even up until the episode where Kyle csed her out and called her a dumb bitch and all of that, that episode aired like a week or two weeks before all of this information came out and they released that statement. Up until that moment, every single person was like Kyle Cook, no one deserves to be spoken to that way. Women do not deserve to have their intimate partner, a man speak to them that way. The husband of However many years is, their a partner who is ten years older than them There is something really fucked up about it That being said, Sierra and Lindsy should cuse Amanda You know what I mean? Yeah. Like Amanda does not, you know, she's deserving of a cussing out. mayaybe just from the girls. Yeah, I fully cign that. I agree. And she actually did make a po where she said West was the first guy to stand up for me. I've never had that before I think that's a big deal because I mean, Sierra, Paage Lindseay, they can only yell at Kyle so much, you know, like I hate that people are going to think I'm like rooting for West in Amanda, which'm not. But it's about time a guy was finally like, Dude, cut the shit I'll say for what it's worth like, Carl did go outside to fight Kyle because Kyle said fuck you to Amanda and then he like really lost it. So it's like, if you really wanna be hornning for somebody, you should be hornning for Carl. Honestly, I think Carl and Amanda make the most sense There is like a moment in the reunion in part two wherere like where they cut a break and then like get Carl gets up and he goes over to Kyle's side of the couch and Kyle's like sitting there like all flustered and the gang is like meeting up And Carl gets down on his he crouches down. He gets on his knees And he like puts his hands on like on Kyle's knees and he like gets eye level with him and he's like, hey It's going to be okay Like we're here for you, buddy. And I was like, this is so sexy. L, can you guys just kiss Carl never looked better I want be like, Kyle, like, did that make your dick twitch? 'cause it made my dick twitch. I don't even know a dick That's so funny I do have to say, I love how the reunion started with Lindseay saying, West, you're a pathy. We're not gonna to believe you. I'm like, I would start using pathy all the time I love that everybody on stage knew what she was saying because every they were like, we all to be Lindsay, it's fine. It' fine. We get what she's saying. I just love how cute she makes things. It's like you really do have a baby. ' she's like, you're a pathy. Right. She's talking to him like he's a baby Because he is What did you think of him in KJ's moment where West was like, yeah, I'd really like to apologize. I'm like in part one, you said you texted basically the core group and didn't include KJ, Levi, and Bailey because he barely knows them. You've said it many, many times before. You love to clock Jacks Taylor variants, Okaykay? West Wilson is a Jacks Taylor variant, you guys And by the way, like we're sitting here analyzing this man and there's people giving him grace as if T out of three reunions he didn't just sit over there and get yelled at. Like we have not liked this man. I don't understand why anybody is finding anything good about Wes. There's nothing about him. att least for me, that has ever been likable ever. But you know, Jack's Taylor for years and years and years and Andy left alock it would say, I'm a work in progress, Andy. Yeah I'm in progress. I'm working on it. I'm working on it. So West is doing a similar thing and the reunion being like I agree. I agree. No, like not now, but like I would like loveo it. if like, We could talk like you know, like whatever it's appropriate. He does this thing where he like start, you think that he's going to say something useful, but then instead he's just like Um Like, like, you know, like like when they asked last week about like, oh, Sarah bought the house and like, how did it feel to be out of the loop? he was like Um We had like a conversation Off camera And da brought me up to speed. That's not what the fucking question was, West. You didn't answer the fucking question. He's such a loser. like there's nothing about him. I have ever found likable. I have disliked him F from Jump. I do not like this man. And it just pisses me up because yeah, like KJ is like, you remind me of my dad who is also a py That was crazy Yeah, you remind me of my passassy father We don't like you. We sat there and we explained the race component to you. We explained all these things to you. and you West is good at saying the right things. and he loves to talk about how he's different because o, fuck ice Donald Trump. My mom is a gynecologist. The mother being a gynecologist gets brought up so often online that it crags me. What the fuck does that have to do with West Is Western pop smears Probably He is. That's what he's doing. He's like, No, it was Chill. L she just came over and I did a pap smear I swiped her cervax, like what's the big deal? You know, my theory about West is I get it. He's very like unarming. when you when you don't know everything else. Like I feel like he's the kind of guy who be like, you're a lesbian, awesome. H five. Yeah. My own' lesbian. Yeah, like he he's someone who like He's the opposite of whereere's my hug M I think you we're used to seeing like Jesse Solomon, whereere's my hug kind of guy And West also kind of looks like Robin Williams and people love Robin Williams the at a ton, but like Here and there I'll see it. and He is kind of funny sometimes. Sorry That's upsetting to me. I disagree. Al hurtful to Robin Williams and his entire legacy and his history. How dare you? No, but I understand because a lot of people are like, o, like that, but I think West also leaned into it. likeike He literally dressed as mres Doubtfire because he is online. He knows what he needs to do to be liked by the audience. likeike his biggest concern is being liked and being well received And so he's saying and doing all the things to make himself likable. Even this episode where they're like Uh Amanda's crying. You should go and check on her. He's like, What you guys to like then be shitting on us like, oh we both left No getet up and then he goes to a minute and he's like, I just came to check on you. No you didn't. You came because you got yelled at R And we just did a Beyond the Blinds episode and Donnie brought up a point. He was so funny. He came on and guested with us. And he was like, I would have leaned over and been like, Andy, can you believe that he left . Yeah That what I'm saying? Like there's it's just it's so funny to me that like he's just He's just a worse. like I just I think I also think that for men who look like that, facial hair is doing like a lot of heaving. Yeah because people are posting pictures of him without facial hair, and I'm like This man has no lips Mhm I get what you're saying. I completely understand. I understand the dislike for West Wilson. And we shouldn't getrace. If anything, we should be meaner to him. I honestly think people are like want Amanda to hurt herself at this point peopleeople are really like It's how they treated Raquel too. You know what sucks is like Tom Sandoval's back on shows and stuff and Raquel's like liivving in Arizona somewhere, off the grid or whatever. and doing sound baths. Right, I fear West will be fine I think Wes will be fine because patriarchy, but also I think with Wes, the reason why I really dislike him is because when I started talking about how much I disliked him for good reason, because I am a Virgo and I'm a data collector and I had enough evidence to know that this is not a good man, I started talking about it and people got so mad at me. Like I literally got Like not death threats. People People love to threaten ice on me as soon as they see that I'm an immigrant. And so looks like a tummy forward toddler. And they were like, you stupid horr bitch. How could you go back to where you're from, you stupid bitter bitch? I bet you're fat and nasty. I'm like, I am fat and I am nasty. Thank you Nastier than you. I'm about to be real fucking nasty. I'm about to be real fucuckking nast. People got really, really mad at me. And it was funny because those same people like a week later, when all that stuff came out about what's going on were like, Wes Wilson is the worst person in the world. And I was like, no Mmmm, you don't get to do that You throw ice on me. You don't get to do that You don't get to do that after Thret and eyes. Jeez Yes. I'm so sorry you have to deal with that. Is it on threads Anyway back did like Sierra saying like, I don't want to be friends. with people when we aren't talking about the political climate. And then she like looked right at West and Amanda and said, like you guys just use buzzwords, but you don't actually see me And I thought that was really powerful It was, and I think it like confirmed again, what KJ was saying, which is like we sat there and we talked to you about all these things and you were like dismiss us all the time. And like I think at the end of the day, like Sierra feels that way because while there isn't a overt racism happening on this show, like say a Vander Pump Rules, right? or any of the Real Housewives. I think the thing that Sierra is saying is that Amanda had a million followers, which is shocking to me. Fom just being a white woman, a thin white woman with big tits, you know? L I don't think that she's ever been a woman who's like exciting. Okay, Kelly, this is such a detour, but you know that fucking video of Amanda that like pops up all the time of her doing that lazy fucking mockareinna that like West posted That video pisses me off so bad. becausecause she's like ing the Moareinna And then Wes post it as if she's like the hottest woman in the world. And then she's also acting like she's the hottest person in the world for doing the laziest the mess up the Mckarinna. Okay. first of all fact. putut her respect on the fucking mockarinna. okay? She didn't even put her hands all the way out. It was very upsetting. So she's just like this lackluster woman, right? And she's had she has a lot of attention. The reality is plugging my podcast but also When a woman with that big of a platform does something egregious or harmful to a black woman who's also on the show with her, you need to recognize that there is an avalanche of your fandom that will sick themselves onto these people and they will behave poorly even if you don't say anything, right? Like in all that time She posted that thing. And then she never posted anything else and then was like, guys, I'm gonna be outside, Boo. I'm gonna be outside. So like just let me live normally. Anyway, see me at the Jumbotron doing a lazy kiss with my stupid boyfriend sort of person She never in that time because you know, Braba loves to like Biley did the last. they loveved to braba liebrity be like, guysu, I know there's like a lot of drama, but like no hate to the people that are involved. Like don't do that. Okaykay? Like she never did that. Like she never, she and Wes never, neither of them ever were like, they didn't Yeah name No, they never said Sierra's name. They never said, we love and adore her. likeike we're sorry that this happened. They never did any of that, right? Like they never even tried and even at this reunion are still continuing to not try at all to like come off remorseful at all. So it's like There isn't an overt obvious like macro aggression that's happening, but I think the not remembering that you're a white woman with a platform and you need to move more carefully with your black hastmates is something that Sierra can say, you don't really care about me. And the thing is take I don't think any of these people genuinely care about each other the way that I think like they might think that they do. like I think they care about each other, but I think that with Siera, I want her to know that like Yes, Lindsey and Carl made that commercial and she's like, I don't give a shit, which by the way, like I read her body language and I was like, well, looks like you might And I don't blame her if she did care. I actually thought that was por and I love Lindsey Hubbard ore. What are we doing? And it was like very and I said this before I think I don't know where I've been talking about summer House with everybody. Could have been voice note, could have been a podcast, I don't know. could have been the threads, I don't know But I think like with Sierra, like I want her to know that like, yeah, Lindsey is coming in really hot against Amanda, right? And she's really mad and all that stuff. and she's disappointed and west and all those things I think Lindseay cares about Sierra, but I think what Lindseay cares more about is the fact that for years on the show, especially since Sierra joined the show, Who was it was a proxy war, right? between Lindseay versus The bed bugs. The bed bugs And Paige was very much on that side and Amanda was very much on Paige's side. Amanda found Paige as the person that was going to fight her battles against Lindsey. And then when Sierra joined, that's also what happened. And then the whole like Austin thing happened. it always was like Amanda was like, see, you can't like Lindsey's a piece of shit. likeike she's terrible. So now Lindsey gets to be like, see. I'm not the problem here. It's actually Amanda. Amanda's always been a problem. Amanda's never liked me. Amanda's not nice, which is probably true, obviously. I think that Lindseay and Kyl are coming in in defense of Sierra in a way that It could be real, but I think like Kyle has shown a lot of care for Sierra. Yeah. But I think that also these people are seeing a rising ship and, you know, hanging ono it so they can get a boost too Except for Mia. I think Mia and KJ are like legit, her friends. I think KJ might actually take the show a little seriously to the point where I'm concerned for him. but I think that like Watching it is really great and everything. I just think that Sierra needs to like sort of protect herself Yeah. I don't think she should go back to the show No, not at all. No I don't think she should return at all. But no, I agree with you. and I think Lindsey has been ready to fight with Amanda since she got that seventeen page email from Kyle.. We's been waiting Also bring out Danlle. Why not bring Danielle out? Just be like in surprise guest, Danielle So Danielle can be like, and I was always right. Exactly. And you know what? Danielle gets on all of our nerds, but she's not wrong Not my nerves Hang up. When she's annoying I'm like love Yeah So yeah, I did really love when Lindsey was like, I never left and I used to be in the fucking hot seat every goddamn reunion. She's like, I I love when she makes it about herself. It's my favorite Lindsey Hubbard thing Always and I've seen people be like, do you think Kyle and Lindseay would make a good couple? andm like No, they would kill each other. No, also they are siblings. Right. And they're both like August Leo' and just a lot of energy there Could you read Dara's entire monologue that she wr? I would love to. First of all, Derek comes in and I love that like they brought her in. they asked her a question like, hey, what do you think about West? And then she's like, Yeahah, West is a piece of shit basically. And West just goes, yeah, I agree Okay, no further questions, I guess. And then when Amanda's brought back on stage, it's like Andy's like, okay, I know we're talking about like Ben's dad like hugging him or whatever, but fuck that. Honestly, I was like, get Amanda on stage now story by the way was such a dink He's like, my dad didn't touch my shoulder for nineteen years or whatever It's like, I think you and Sabrinna should just go be with each other and please don't come back to Summer House. I'm glad she's helping you heal or whatever. I'm like give my daddy a hug. like, okay. Anyway, Andy was like, okay, whatever. I don't care hand his back So Dara says, And he's like, Hey, Dara, do you mind repeating what you just said to Wes early? She's like, I would love to, and I'm gonna add a little bit more extra sauce She says The biggest pattern in his life is that it is the West showh and it will always be the West show and the biggest concern of his consistently is being well liked and well received. He doesn't prioritize treating the women he is linked to romantically with the same respect as he does anyone else in his life. And I just foresee him for a very long time wanting someone who will mold and fold and fit into his life without excuse or complaint. and it is up to you to decide what's worth it breaking sacrificing or losing for that kind of a person Here's a tip for you. There's a podcast out there with fans waiting to be your next customer They tune in every week, they trust the host, and that host wants to talk about brands like yours in their own words to their audience. The problem is, you just haven't been introduced yet. We're a cast where that introduction happens as the world's largest podcast marketplace. We let you browse shows, see who's listening and book host reed sponsorships or run your own ads all from one platform. Transparent pricing, real time data, complete control. Start advertising on podcasts by visiting acast. com slash advertise I mean, but that is what Amanda's done for Kyle. Yes. And the thing is like She says that and Amanda's just like Yeah Right, they they had no fight in them. Do you think this would have gone over better if Aand in West walked, you know, did the Arian and Tom thing walked in hand in hand and they were just like, fuck you guys, this is what we're doing because instead, they're just not saying anything other than fuck you sometimes to Sierra or like Yeah, that's crazy. Yeah. Yeahah Yeah Yeah, ye. What What? No Yeah. I know. And the only time she pipes up like I said, is when West started talking about how Kyle's a bad husband. But like they could have gone so many directions. I feel like it would have been more entertaining because to be honest, it's like Sierra says and me how later on the call. They're sitting there like they don't even like each other. Yeah. It's very confusing and I think it's like att least like stand in your decision, right? Like I love that Sierra when they ask like, oh, Jesie, did you write that song for Sierra and And he's like, no, and they're like, D did you write about West and Amanda? He's like, No, And then Sierra goes Well, they can play it at way I know. Sierra is really like She is so good with her like quick comomments, like she's so funny Sar U I said Amanda she said Amanda historically has low self esteem. I didn't lie. Right, I loved Winam. when Amanda said, I like West, and it's embarrassing. And she goes, Yeahah, that is embarrassing. Iting It' embarassing. And the other thing that pissed me off about like that whole thing was like every single time they went to her it's like Andy's like, oh, what do you think like We were part of the Kyle show and then now you're part of the West showh. And she's like, yeah And then they're like, what was it what's different about your relationship with Wes versus like what he's been doing with all these other women or with Sierra or anything? She's just like Well, we talked privately and it's like between us. I would love to know what that is. You're going to need to tell us. what is No secrets. Eough with the secrets. No. that she had just been like, You know what? I saw. The way that West was in a relationship with Sierra and I saw that it made Sierra happy and I wanted to be that happy too. So I just wanted to see what it was like ly think would happen is that There was a lot of drugs involved And I think thatly okay Okay. and then Amanda I think probablyb like West, I think flirts with everybody. I think he flirts with everybody and he thought he could continue flirting with Amanda because she's a married woman, right? And she's not going to actually go for it. But I think that anyt timee anybody offers to West is like, yeah Of course Of course, I'm gonna fuck you. Like that's it. Oh, you want me take my penis out? Yeah, no problem. Like of course. It's my favorite thing Yeah, it's my favorite thing in the world. I will do it without even asking. I'll even take a picture soft and send it to people, which is so weird.. Yes Yes I don't get it. But just to pause there for a second. Donny Can you tell us why somebody would send a flastid dick pick Thank you When you're editing Donnie, please insert yourself and answer that question. Yeah, I would love that. Okay, editor, Donnie, please, we need your two cents. Okay And then she just was like, yeah, let's just like do it. And then they made out. And then she had like a sober realization, like fuck, what did I do? And then she freaked out and she was like, we have to make this official. I think that's really what it is And that's why when Sierra says, this is ideal for him because she's still not technically available. She is married. She cannot commit to him. It's an ideal situation because West, I think loves to just be like, yeah, like it's Chill. like we're just hang out. She's like chill. like she's a friend We're just like' just like showing around town. like's big deal. L even this Miha thing he was probably like ye, like I Whatever. likeike did you watch this in the city I did, yes You know, like in that first beginning of the episode where they have like Amanda, Siera and Bart Completely insane with West, it's like in the confessional she when the even the latest confessional for me, she's like, no, I was looking at this like these are my best friends and now my best friends are best friends with each other. Yeah. And I was like She kept emphasizing that they're now best friends. They're now best friends. They're best friends. So it was like, She really is trying to convince herself and the audience that There was no romantic anything going on with West and Sierra. They were just best friends. We're all just best friends braiding each other's hair And now I get to act like Yeah. Oh, we're also best friends, but we just tried something new. You guys tried it once it didn't work out. now I'm trying it. likeike let me give it a go. You know? I'm gonna say something that might set me back to the nineteen fifties, but I see in this okay? I've had friends who have done this where all of a sudden they have a guy best friend and they're like thirties when they're married. And they're like, but we work together and we get along so well. We're besties and like Like what do you mean you And I'm not saying you can't have guy friends. I'm not trying to say that at all. but it's like when all of a sudden there's a new bestie and it's like a guy they met at work who they love hang he makes me laugh like all the time. I'm like, I think you like him Yeah, you have a crush on your coworer That does send you back to the fifties, Though some people may call it a little archaic. and to those people I say, suck my dick and it itss bide. You can't say it You have to agree with Kelly because it's pride And if you don't agree with her, then you're homophobic. You know what? I think that that's a totally valid point. I think like them you know, even in the reunion, Andy was like, I feel like you guys are very touchy feely with each other like as a cast. And she was like, yeah, the lines do get like a little blurred sometimes, right? And it was like, well Yeah, the lines get blurred, but I feel like everybody knows where to like pump it. like At the end of the season in that like winter party or whatever, like Amanda kissed Jessse on the mat I was like Really I' maybe it's just like old school, but like I feel like there's a lot of people that love to say I love you. I love you. I love I hate I hate it so much. You know somebody for two months and then suddenly you're saying, I love you each other as friends. That's weird Let's not do that. Let's not do that. Okay. What are we doing? What's going on? I And so I feel like when as soon as you have like a guy best friend and the suddenly, you're like, that's my best deal. like love him Mh hm What is he? what is going on here. I don't like it. And I also think that's just an excuse to get to hang out with a person who is of the opposite sex that makes you feel good. Yeah, I completely agree. What did you think of Jesse kind of like saying he had feelings for Sierra? Okay Same. I felt like Every time they cut to Jesse, I was like, get the camera away from him. and I don't know why I' being such a hateater now everybody's like, he went through cancer and he decided to become a singer guys. Like cut him some slack. No, I get it. That's amazing. I'm so happy for you But Get him out at my house. Get him out of my home. back Also like they did the whole segment and no point did Andy go like, hey, also, Jessie, you asked Wes for permission. Wes, did you think about asking Kyle for permission about making out with his ex wife or whatever PG things you guys were doing or sty What's PG? Is it your stuff? I don't think so. No, I'm guessing PG iss just making out. It's like first bace. French feel finger fuck, you know? No, I think I have a different I think that it wasn't making out. I don't think they kissed. I think before. I think that it should be like, can I put my hand on your deck And he would be like, okay Oing Or she'd be like, you wantna touch my tets?d be like okay It's very like, I feel like those two function like they're in eighth grade. Yeah, they feel very eighth grade. They were like I go back and wonder like what would have happened if A mana just told Sierra right away if she didn't lie so much and if she was just honest, like It's like a sliding doors thing, right? It's like, I so wish I could see that version too of Amanda actually being honest and even them being like, we actually didn't have sex until our statement. I'm like, okay, you upstanding citizens, like good job. What Also you're a liar. L no nobody believes that. No one believes that. I also think the whole date thing is really important because Sierra the first time she got weird vibes about them hanging out together was january fifteenth or sixteenth. and then january seventeenth is the date of the statement of them breaking up Kyle and Amanda like separating. and Cal's like, oh, Bravo PR called me and they said, you absolutely need to post this and d d And I'm like, yeah, Amanda was like also in a rush to post that probably because she like touched his dick. The day that she had her, you know, location at West's house or whatever. I think Amanda knows exactly what would have happened. What would have happened is Sierra would have said, Amanda, you can't do that And Amanda didn't want to have the conversation where she was told, no. So she was like, if I don't tell her And I just do it then at least I can say like you didn't say no Right Oh It's just such nasty behavior It's really like shitty because I mean, I'm sure you too. like woman friendships are so important and it's so important to like try to raise your friends up. And do I always do that? No. Do I talk some shit? Yeah But at the end of the day, I'm not trying to fuck anyone's partner, you know what I mean? And like it's just so nasty and to know that Sierra and West were like Maybe hooking up in the fall makes it so much more disgusting The follow points are right there. I like it's what sixty days sixty days. Can you imagine like you got Thanksgiving and Christmas in the middle? That's it. Yeah. And then whatever happened New Year's Day, which I get I wish we got to talk about more, like you said, like they wouldn't really talk about Kyle other than his drunkenness, but she was like, you're in a hotel in Hoboken New Year's D and Kyle went silent. And I was like, say more What's going on New Year's? Who are you in the Hoboken hotel with Well, I'm very happy to share with you that they did mention on the reunion that Kyle ended up at a fan's house after the Watch of Krappens After Party, and I organized the after partarty Wait, can you tell us anything more about it? or are you not allowed? I mean, no, of course I can. L Watcher Crabins, they do a show in New York, like at least once a year. whenever they do it, it's always near this bar called the Long Room. And then me and my friend Richie, who everybody knows as cadoos on Instagram, he does see the Charlie B Brown cartoons over like Housewives stuff So Richie and I, Richie was like, hey, I'm gonna organize this like after party. like we can hang out there before the show. and after the show, I was like, yeah, of course. And I like helped to make a flyer and like a menu for like the special drinks that we would have there. And so it was the official Watch of Krappens after party after the Watch of Krapppens show And so I remember Kyle being there and I remember Kyle showing up and I remember Kyle still being there well into everybody leaving. and Kyle was like It's embarrassing to watch a man who is, you know, three and forty and he's by the way, that's not an original It's Kayle Wilson always says it that way because she's so funny. He's forty three years old. his eyes are pupils dilated to the max Just standing around with O drink in his hand sort of like muttering and like, not really like talalking to anybody, just kind of like, he was like in the middle Like nobody's there anymore. Everybody's going home. like where are you gonna go? And then my friend Sue stayed there after and he was talking to a fan and they were like, he's gonna go home with her. L there's no way that he's not, you know? And I don't think that any of this is shocking to people from New York or the area who have seen Kyle out. None of it is surprising. stepping out on Amanda is not shocking information. We've known that he's always done this pissing me off is that Amanda purposely for years on the show pretended like that wasn't going on despite Lindsey bringing it up Paage bringing it up, fucking Craig brought it up. Like everybody's brought it up and she acts like it's not happening. And now when she's in the hot seat, she wants to use that as a reason of like, I was a victim. That pisses me off. I will say she is a victim in the situation with Kyle and that Kyle's a shitty husband Bye fromrom like a programming standpoint, from like a show It's not helping her at all. Totally, tootally. And it's not helping her case like you just said. And I think it's so interesting how so many people on threads, threads. They're like, show me the proof of him cheating. I'm like, he said it on stage Yeah, ye. He admitted to it He said I was like a little inappropriate, whatever. and she's like, he stepped out. and he's like, I didn't Have an affair Right. I didn't leave with anyone. He's like, someome girl, I did ask her to make out and she said, no, I'm like, so you were turned down. But you still attempted to cheat. Like it's still, you know and also just by one person. So people did agree to it. Yeah, That's a good point. Yeah. If you're listening, I ask these people to kiss you? No That's weird Weird. Why are you asking Kyle Cook to make out? orr agreeing for him to make out. They're not asking. He's asking them.. Don't agree to that. At least he's asking, I guess, bars in hell But you ro pile on this Ro I see myself drinking in Kyle with how he parties. Oh yeah. And he's in such denial that he has a drinking problem. I have been the friend who isn't fun to go out with because I will not stop I will invite you to brunch and we will stay out till midnight. Sorry. That's just how I roll. Yeah. And that's who Kyle is. Th thenen I got like really triggered. So on this podcast, I've talked a lot about I have a family member who's an alcoholic And that family member would always turn things back on me. And what's funny is now like obviously, I don't drink, but I used to go to Alanon And I'll never forget someomeone in Alanon saying, the alcoholic in your life makes you makes you look crazy to everybody else And that's what I felt like Kyle was doing on that stage. It really felt like he was like, well, you don't fuck me. so what else am I supposed to do? It's like, you're not entitled to I mean Yes, it sucks, mayaybe you didn't have as much sex as you want, but like you're not entitled to Amanda's body. Yeah. Also like if you keep getting drunk every time you go out with your wife, your wife has the right to say, I do not want to go out with you anymore. I don't like going out with you anymore. And even her being like I did I did appreciate that Sierra was like, Well, why don't you go out? I thought you didn't like to go out. And I think that's important to bring up because on the show on summer House consistently for years. We've seen Amanda stay back while everybody else goes out because she's like, oh, I don't like to go. L my whole thing is like I don't like to go out, but now she likes going out because Amanda just does whatever the guy in her relationship that she wants to like make happy does, but also It's because Amanda's getting fucked up now too. Like Amanda is getting to do drugs allegedly and drink. and whatever with the coolest guy what in her mind, whoever is the number one guy in the group You know, I disagree with you. Okaykay because Well, I'll leave. No, so I disagree because I think what you were saying is going out with Kyle wasn't fun anymore People get black out drunk. wouldn't even stand anymore at like SNL parties. He was falling over. Yeah It's really not fun to have to always take care of someone And I to good point of taking care of him. thenen he starts DJing, right? And when he's DJing, he wants her to support her. He's also not paying attention to her Well, he'sJing. He's very much like This is feeding his ego and he's having the best time. Whas I think West is someone who's like, come out with me and my friends and these are my friends. Look at Amanda. We're all friends here. I think it's just a different type of partying. I'm not saying West isn't out till two AM. Yeah, you know, but she doesn't have to like take care of West the way she had to take care of her husband who is a decade older than her. Okay, that's a really, really good point because I do agree that that probably does make a big difference. If you're not having to nurse your husband that night and like drag his ass home then it's different because also If Amanda wants to go out with West and then Amanda wants to leave and go back to her own apartment and West wants to continue being out I guess in her mind, it's like not as bad because they're not married whichich I understand, she's not responsible for West I think that's only sleep in the kitchen Yeah He's just walking around without a shirt on and putting his fingers in the buuffalo chicken dag. Sick, so sick And that is West Wilson in a nutshell S with his fingers in the chest. And if you point it out You better be ready to get deported out of America, okay Is there anything? it hasn't been covered yet, but you hope it gets covered? Yes, all of it Andy was like Andy was like, o, oh, we can't talk anymore because Amanda's not here. so let's talk about Ben. I was like, no, talk to West. Ask him. What was it? Tell us? Why don't you tell us? shhare with the room? What were the private conversations? What have you told Amanda that makes Amanda think that this is a different relationship? What is the difference between your relationship with Sierra and now your relationship with Amanda How long were you saying seeing me ha When you brought meh to watchatch What happaens Live, did you fuck her? And then a week later, you released a statement with Amanda. What is going on? Like I need Andie to ask the fucking questions. I also want to know your opinion on this Before you ask my opinion Yeah. I have a question Yeah Why do you think Andy's not doing that Okay, You look like you were so scared I was like, what's going on You're gonna be like I have a question for you, Are you ready to leave your family and go back to your country of warar because you kiss me off No, no, no. I was just wondering because I know you've watched like so many Bravo shows and stuff Andy gets lazy sometimes. Okay up Andrew. come on. Okay. And then the other thing I noticed and this is my question for you is they haven't talked about the tape, but I did hear about the tape in the leaked audio. What do you think from your expertise of how this stuff is done in the media Why do you think they haven't brought up the leaked tape because in or the leaked pictures or video or whatever it was. because in the leaked audio, Amanda said we had to release a statement because there was a video out and I didn't want it to get out. and I didn't want everybody to talk about it And then she's like, I never even saw the video. I just like got nervous and I likeost posted the state wanted that because I think it's important It explains why West and Amanda are kind of sitting there like they hate each other What do you think? I think at the end of the day, they still have to kind of protect Amanda because she's on in the city. And I think that audio being leaked just goes to prove that they're going to protect Amanda in the editing, like as much as they can because they're putting so much stock into in the city Uh That makes sense. Yeah. That's the only thing I can guess. or they don't want to give that, I'm sorry. I know West and Amanda what they did was awful. I still think it's really fucking weird to take videos of someone in their apartment bedroom one hundred percent. Like that's so inappropriate. So I also almost wonder if like they didn't want to give power to that person and let them like have a bravo moment Yeah. I also think if that person sent that video to Sierra and then Sierra sent that video to other people, it gets them back into the Vander pump rule situation of like the revenge porn Mmhm. Yeah, that's a good point. Because the people on the internet believe that Sierra has seen it and that is what caused her to find out more about Amanda and everything like that. becausecause on the reunion so far We haven't asked Sierra, how did you find out that this was going on? O than the location stuff. other than the location stuff, that was her first like feeling that something was going on But at what point did they tell Sierra? likeike, I want to get into that. When did you tell Sierra? What did you tell her? Read me the texts You're right. They've given us so much, but they haven't given us the real like. Juice No, also because it's not juicin because those two dummies on the side mrter Mr and Mrs. Benzoos over there are They're not responding at all. And then he's so fucking creepy. It was so Tom Sandevald him and the break to be like, you're doing great. Be less snppy, just be honest. like open up to them. And I know Sierra gets under your skin. That's her goal How dare you? Yeah It's like Sier's actually being much nicer than I thought she would be. If I'm being completely honest and I understand kind of why like She doesn't want to feed into any kind of trope and she knows that rarabo fans will run with it But I think she's doing such an incredible job and the reason she's getting under your skin is because you know you fucked up Yeah, exactly. She's getting under your skin. She's like, everybody's making me feel really bad for trusting you. so like That's annoying. And he like doesn't say anything. He's like Yeah, you shouldn't trust her She's like, Well, they have a point Right? He's like, well, you know, maybe you should listen. It is so stupid. It's just frustrating watching them because again, they're not giving us any new information. They're not really giving us anything It's it is awkward and hilarious. Yes. I agree and These two do not like each other, but it seems like they're having fun in Italy. But if I'm being honest I do not need tracker updates where in the world are West and Amanda. And I know best thing we could do is to ignore them. Yes, thank you. It's the same way they kept for like until the reunion aired. They were like So have you texted West back? Like anytime they would talk to a new person on the cast, you'd be like, so Have you texted West back? I don't care. Yeah. I don't care. No, I hope they didn't. And I don't care. Did West text you? It does not matter. I genuinely don't give a shit I don't care about the text and I don't care about what's happening in Italy Okay, with that stupid hairdo that she has Online went. and looked up the RSVP And we're like, when did West get a plus one? Did it Guys, get a fucking grip. It doesn't matter. It doesn't matter They're already fucking each other in Rome or whatever. Yeah. like they're already doing what they're doing and being like, well, the time the only thing I'll say is like we got a DM on february twenty third. 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Learn more by visiting Acast dot com slash advertise Yeah, six zero That's it ike I said, I wish we got to hear more about New Year's Eve with Kyle and Amanda because in my opinion, I think there was probably like an emotional affair with Wes Until West was kind of like, should we like Yiss. O whatever the sex. Is it like is it me or like, do you feel something too? Shut up. Is there I hate him so much. And I you know whyost I hate him I could imagine myself being twenty two years old Yes. tootally falling for this bullshit clloseted me would have gobbled it up. I would have been like, I finally found the one to trick everyone That's the thing. I think every all of us who like really don't like him and even the ones that have fallen for him, even though I'm mad at you guys, but I get it, it's like we have all been nineteen, twenty, twenty one years old and we met a guy in college who's like so fun and so silly and so chill. And you're like, yeah, I'm so much hotter than him. There's no way That he could be playing me and guess what? He was. He was. And that's cash. It's okay. It's okay and you learn from it. You know what was jarring? When Miha said, I built his furniture for his apartment. What is this man doing to you women? I know. It's like you built his furniture Let's order a task rabbit Sure atch furniture I know how much like every piece. A side table T too much furnure. If it's one piece, it's too many. Oiece too many. I was like, Miha, I would have kept that to myself. That's embrazassing. Do you think they're gonna like bring her in on like a giant flat screen TV? likeike wheel her out the way substitute teachers used to wheel it out when they were like in class being like it's movie day. One can only hope. Honestly, one can only hope and pray. Carl should bring Miha on his podcast or whatever That's all Carl does. Carl just interviews Brabo people. Yeah. he does a good job though He know, it's okay. Yeah, Cars like The worst interview I've ever seen. Oh, okay, good. Better than I hope West podcast with that Mgab Barbie lady. Sophie, whatever her last name is. Cunningham. What did they say They tried to make Sierra look bad in a recent clip where they were like You know, Sierra being like, You're doing this out of spite of me. I was like, why would you even say that? And then the rest was like with his little hands like, I don't know why she would sling. I don't know. He does his little Arianna Grande's sweatshirt hands and then he puts them under his chin and like, I'm just so beep. I know. He's like, I didn't barely know how to read. Fed. I don't know is so nice Maybe just w to like get fucked up and maybe like practice giving pap smears because my mom's a gynecologist What do you think the fate of Summer House is? What do you think next season looks like for Summer House? TikTok, it's almost time to film, guys. It's June. Okay One month. Okaykay, July, I need cameras up and running. Here's my thought. I think that Bravo switches over to in the city. I think Summerhouse They try it one summer and I think it's going to be Jesse KJ Dara. It's going to be bad. Jesse KJ Dara Brings the bringinger Bell on TV. cookie girl who only watches entourage 's that In the year of twenty twenty six, your favorite show is entash That you binge watch. It's the only show that you watch. That's so weird. By the way. It's important for me to support you, Kelly Williams because it felt like me and you were the only voices of a reason. Ben is crazy. It just like is such a bummer Yet. I think when it comes to Ben, he has this anger beneath the surface and you either see it or you don't. And exactly don't see it. I feel like you're lucky that you don't for you. Yeah. Yeah. I'm like Congratulationsing that because I have seen that like simmering Ready to rage And even when Bailey was like starting to read him a bit, and he was like, don't bring Sabrina into this. She's like, I didn't. You just did. I was talking about you, you asshole. Yeah, yeah. becausecause the thing that pissed me off on the show is when they were like cuddling in the kitchen or something and Sabrina just like gabled at him like saying like, I care about you or something. He was like, o, what the fuck? Wh are you yelling at? Wh are you laughing at me I was just being noyed and she was like, He was just giggling You know, I have trouble putting words together. Why would you talk to me like that and she's like He's like, you know my daddy didn't hug me since I was nineteen years old and I fuck that girl in his house y get him h. I agree with you. but this is going to be really unpopular. I don't want Carl back. I don't want Kyle back. I don't want Jesse back I think I don't want Sierra back just for her own good. Not that I don't enjoy Sierra but for her own good. And I think Mia should be the new like person you build the house around. I think you can have Mia KJ Dara maybe But I don't know if they're still together or not. I don't know, it changes every day. Right. And then Bailey and then get like three, four newbies It was so funny. Levi, they were like, Oh, Amanda's not coming back, so I guess we're gonna take a break. Okay, Levi, you can fuck off now. She's like, nice to meet you, Andy. They did exactly what they did to Emeral they did. I can't go in on you know I love Ed too. I know I do too. I love him I'm like he should be able to fuck whoever he wants, whatever Yeah, Jesse went into a room and masturbated. He went into a room and masturbated watching his friend fuck somebody Fuck two people. That's what he did Right. And he's too ashamed to talk about it. He jerked off watching a man fuck to women. That's really what it was Write a song about that, Jesse Solomon. He will, he will and be like,ry Hdr. mouth just agape like a snake. He would be so lucky if he could tour with China Shea Oh my goh I love that idea I have another idea, which I've been saying to everybody who has ears it's so stupid, but my friend Amanda and I were talking about this. and I think that Dorinda and Kyle should get together They look too similar Well They're both New England blondes withood drinking problems. They love just slur. they love a big house, and they are DJs Yeah, that's a good point. New power couple. They could really be at like the Bravo fan party chlorox activation or whatever. Nor any other thoughts before we say goodbye, anyy more reunion thoughts? No thoughts on reunion. I would like some more answers, Andy, so like figure it out. And also fuck Ken on in the city. Honestly th, this is when you're not gonna to like me. I find him to be such a fun villain Oh, okay Sure I think he like a fun villain. I don't like him by any means, but I guess I watch like Southern Hospitality and the villain's fucking Emy Yeah, yeah, yeah yeah, yeah. No, I got it. I got it. I love Bravo forgiving me ment to hate. I also have a theory that for a long time Bravo's like anchor was housewives And it was like, Housewes is great because it's like women and they're petty women and they bicker about petty things. And one of the things that we've seen This is why Rhode Island is so good because it's like so natural how they're fighting with each other But for a long time for a lot of these like existing franchises, we've started to lose steam on the pettiness. And so the drama isn't as fun. So Bravo, I think noticed that there is another type of fandom that gets people engaged, which is hating men. And that's why I think Southern Charm still exists. That's why I think the Valley exists That's why I think like even in the city is here. I think that Bravo is aware that there is a freakish amount of their fandom that is like into Austin and Chp, which is weird. And Craig, yuck But there's also a lot of engagement and a lot of chatter that comes from the rage bait of these men being on these shows. And I think that Bravo is like, what can we do to get people talking about our shows? Oh, I know it's getting these obviously shitty men on TV who harm people around them so that peopleople can keep talking about these shows on social media. Yeah, I think you're very right and or people really love these toxic men and will fight to the death. Like I truly believe Craig could be a cult leader with how much people love Craig Coniver. It's sick. Has he had like a sewing retreat yet? Not yet, but I'm sure it's coming. Now that you put it in out there, he's going to hear it and be like, that's a good idea He's an actor in a storyteller Nor, thank you so much for coming on to talk about Summerhouse, my favorite show on the planet at the moment, for sure. where can people find you You can find me at The Reality is Pod on Instagram and threads. Unfortunately I am on threads Come and support me because Love Island is on and I'm sure people are gonna be threatening me with all kinds of craz stuff. ' if you think the fandom of Bravo is bad, baby, those middle schoolers that watch Love Island, they're crazy. They have no shame. they have no frontal lobe, and they're going nuts on the internet So go support me there. And also I have a Patreon if you want to check out ad free video content. I'm trying to kick off a YouTube so you could find me there too, but listen to my podcast, everywhere podcasts are heard The issue I have with Love Island is that they like make out too much and it grosses me out. Okay, Kelly, it makes you never want to kiss another human being ever again. Like I think every summer I watch Love Island and I just look at my husband and I go, ew. like don't ever kiss me again. Ever I need to read some gay smut books before I can go back to this because this show has made me never want to kiss a person again. Love is blind does that for me too. Like any of the dating shows, even watching that clip of West in Sierra 'cause I was like, is that what people look like? That's so gross Unfortunately, I'm so excited for Love is Bind Boston coming this fall. I'm like gonna pre game, even though I don', I'm gonna take so many edibles and just be like, ye Actually I'll be more like, I'll be like, ye Honestly a time to be alive if you're from New England, you know what I mean? Yeah, it's a big moment for us, bigig moment. We had some characters from New England. Also, you guys just got, what's his name from the Eagles now? Yeah. AJ We're the Patriots, AJ. Browns. I I was wearing an Eagle sweshirt earlier, but then I got hot. so I wanted to be respectful. Are you a football girl