Show Details and Final Thanks

This is f Let. He Here we go For broth, sisters, siblings, Wlcome to Penn Sunday School I'matt Donney We broadcasting from Sh Cer Studio South here in Las Vegas, Nevada. This week we are gonna talk about all kinds of things, a myriad of thingss. It's really hard to tease one thing in particular as Pen and I didn't discuss it at all before we started recording. So here he is, preaching the love, brought to by masterclass. H H's Pen This is Pen, preach of loveo brought to you by Masterclass dot com slash Pen! You can do lifelong learning and get a discount and it's a good thing. A boy am I not ready I am not ready in terms of preparation. Yes. I'm also not ready emotionally. Okay have to get a lot of sleep. I've been encountering a lot of my friends are having trouble sleeping. Well, you know, Paul Simon, who to me, is the expert in insomnia and sleep deprivation. Yes. I don't think there's anybody better. I don't think he's ever put out an album that doesn't have some reference to not being able to sleep. Um Paul Simon says, I don't expect to be treated like a fool no more. I don't expect to sleep through the night. Right. And that line just goes through my head all the time. when I'm lying there saying Okay, do I take a bath and read O do I put on headphones or do I watch TV? Any of those three things will assure that I don't sleep But lying here, I'm not sleeping. Like I'm positive. I was not picky about my pillows in my twenties and twies Yeah You could sleep behind a dumpster. All right I used to be a stomach sleeper where you basically kind of had no pillow And I don't know when I stopped that, but I feel like I should go back to those days. It feels like a smarter idea. Yeah. alsoso I think Sleeping like a baby, which is sobbing in your own piss. Yes is the way to do it. Yeah. Well, we all can sleep bed after we sob uncontrollably for a little while. That is true. That is true. We don't bring ourselves to that. Yeah, I cry all the time, but maybe I should Push by crying back to bed and go to real sobbing. I went and saw a show. It was a brilliant show by a woman named Sanny Calcut She, um, she's she's a great form a city around town you spe in humanity And what you' you doing inZ humanity, Machina? Tailbed lass? No, no, no. was she was the clown. So she had the big the fake Scotch Baggies breast implant bit in the show. Scotch bagg? Scotch bag. she would say she norm make you make she would tape basically bags full of scotch to her chest to fake having breast implants. Oh Sotch actual bag. Yeah, Scotch the beverage and then baggy, the like actual like a Ziploc bag. She use real scotch? I' have no idea. It seems expensive. Yeah, I bet that would be very expensive Um I bet there's someone Who has masturbated thinking of breast full of scotch? Oh sure right Yeah yeah They asked for testimonials after the show And then they put on a montage of those testimonials to get people to come see it's during for a fall at French Festival show. Yeah, this is this is not a new thing. Yeah. It's an advertisement. Yeah,, I laughed, I cried, I got in frraame. Right. So I was pulled aside to do that, right? And I saw a show and I loved her show. and her show was uh, you know I always said like my wife was like, Ohh Chan to wrote a show It's kind of about her going through menopause and other family stuff. and I was like, oh, I'm gonna see like this, you know, some kind of like I guess you know, whatever you would imagine we know We know we think it would suck. Exactly right. Yeahah. You don't have to go further because we just get in trouble. Exactly She wrote a show that you consider to be probably It would be Enlightening, Right and elevating, R, but certainly not entertaining. And or great for other women in the room. Sure. Right. And instead it was remarkably hysterical, incredibly well written And all that without compromising how deep she went on all kinds of., whereere's she doing this damn thing? At the Fallout Fringe Festival, The show's called Surprise. I It has to run another place. It's so good. I'm sure Fallout Finge Festival is in Vegas. Yes.'s the Fallout Frche Festivalegas. I think Id know that. Yeah, yeah. Be somebody who lives in Vegas. If you're hearing this I'm doing our show this week, which is much less deep We're doing Shakespeare The musical Irovised with Brad Sherwood and Paul Mattingly. at the same Finge thing. Same Finge thing. Tuesday Wedesday, Thursday at the Vegas Theater compompany Yeah, we wouldn't ex you will not cry at all. I wouldn't expect Shakespeare to be deeper than have a clown from Gumanity. But you're telling a story that I'm interrupting. Oh yeah is Be I desperately am trying to get a shot of this. She told gunrarching stories And some of them, I Couldn't shake off So everyone else left me and like, wow, that show was really funny. And I agreed But everyone else was like had a full complete experience and was like giving very shiny, smiley testimonials. So in this montage of testimonials, is me crying. All those lights, all those sounds You're crying I'm crying. I'm trying to talk about the show. and I can't shake off the heavier stuff that she talked about in her show. And it was beautiful. I'm grateful for it, but I was weeping through a lot of for sure. And then you dozed off instantly I slept like a rock then But yeah, it was I thought it was like almost comedic Like it was just like amazing. No, I loved it. No I think it made me feel things. And I was like really just in the middle of it just weeping like like an idiot. And they used that they used it. Yeah ye yeah. Done feel even weirder about it Well, you know, we want to show that at all different levels it reacts. Yeah, yeah, yeah I U you hate the things you most hate in yourself M right So like if there's like a musical and the character is emotional, but he tries to like cry sing. I hate the sound of like cry singing O someone trying to hit notes while they're also upset. And then I was cry talking in my review and I just, o, I hated it so much. hated it You can always tell What you hate the most about yourself by who pisses you off? Oh, for sure. Right, for sure And you know, that shows you politically, we're all narcissistic Yeah, yeah, yeah Yeah So u but yeah, so what I was a I was embarrassed, but still, if it helps sell the show, then great You're a kind person. You want to sell the show? Yeah. What theaters is this being done? It's being done all over town by the Majestic Theater, Veaggas Theatre Company, and the Third Street U playlhouse. downtown. All downtown. Yeah, it's a big downtown thing. Yeah I saw a brilliant clown show down there. a guy from Washington D.C be good Paulleette was, you know, totally Irovised clown Crazy fun show hard to describe but amazing. It was good. U That's what we're doing Shakespeare, the musical with they right across the bally, just easy to describe What we're doing. Well, wr in the title. Yeah We're trying to do something very mstream but yeah, it's been super fun You start Wednesday, you said Tuesday, Wedesday Thursday. You start Tuesday. Yeah. So day after tomorrow. Yeah, you'll be up there doing it. Yes. And we know the best thing about improvisation is not a lot of preparation. Are you doing youre giv fluff? Puffy sleeves or something. Yeah, we're gonna do puffy shirts Uh, we're going to do, um sashes of material so that we can play different characters and be distinct about who we're playing. What mean slashes? Set like a long kind of u, I don't know Where would you describe it? You could wear I can't describe exactly You wear. You're talking to me Long pieces of material that you can wear across your chest diagonally or around your waist like a belt or over your head like a Like a nun. This is very close to shapography Isn't it? Very cleose. Now you've got my attention You know, I always want you to do shapography. I know. And I looked into was very little source material for shpography. Well, you know, need you need a ring of felt. Well the ring of felt I had for a while. you bought a shipographher? I had a shipographher. There are certain there's a few birthday presents I owe you One as I was going to try to learn shpography and surprise you on your birthday. Well, you know't For those who are I guess you would say Philistines. Yeah that aren't hip to the word shography. Yeah. Shapography is an act. where you take a ring of felt. Yeah, and then you tell a story bending the felt into various kinds of hats. Yeah. It is very close to trouble with. where you take folded up piece of paper. Yes and tell a story making different things out of that. That was item number two, I owe you is trouble with I think if you did trouble witt and shpography at the same time. Yeah, I might just come in my pants. I evenven bought a trouble wit and was actually filling with Teller one time. A actually trying to figure out if I could figure out anything of the trouble w It's it's more difficult than you think to really articulately moveo the trouble width. Yeah And not a skill that is transferable. No No, no. onnce you have basically, it's a slinky of folded paper too long to be a fan U kind you can make it look like a fan. No problem. That one I got down. And a martini glass. It is the fluid of getting out of what you've created with a trouble witick skill. But it's not, you know, you it's not like you're going to go to a job and say I I can do trouble with which I think will be very useful when answering phones Or do you better hear something? Yeah Trouble it? Yeah, notot something that'll be replaced by AI. That's true. Right. That is absolutely true. Answering phones is. No. like if'm I'm hired to be part of a ragtag group of creatives, creating the next big tech product. the media won't be like well, I was working with a tble whip And then lay out a lesson that would make everyone else go like, Oh yeah. Bak things. Well, that's my point. With my trouble wit, you know that moment when you make the hourglass? Well, I broke it. And that's what we're trying to do here with this algorithm that will destroy everyone's childhood and our government. Uh so yeah, Tography Never done for you. Trouble with it. I never learned for you David Greenberger wrote down everywhd that Mick Jagger said the concert. Oh yeah I'm supposed to memorize that as a monologue too. So those are three things that are I owe you for your. I'm telling you all three of these things Yeah would make you money. And I don't mean I tip you five afterwards No. I mean, if you learn the McJagger thing. Yeah And if you did Troublewade, you did shapography, that would be staples of your show. Don't you think? I do Boy, for those who don't know They did what of these tribute records. Yeah on the stones And they asked all these bands, mostly The more Avant Garde band Cover a stone saw And they went to David Greenberger Oo does duplex plananet interviewing older people and does a lot of monologues and is fabulous. Yeah. an artist, David Green. You don't know David Greenberger, check out Duplex Planet He's wonderful. Yeah. But he decided and this is such Brilliant idea. And it's brilliant conceptually And when you hear him do it It's even more brilliant He decided for his tribute to the Stones He would go through every live recording. I think he only did legitimate ones where he would have gone crazy. Yeah He took every live recording of the Rolling stone wrote down in chronological order everythingvery Nick Jagger said And then did that as a monologue as his tribute to the stones. And he goes, than you, thank you Thank you Thank you. We're gonna do another one now. thank you. Charlie's okay to I'd thank you. I better not rip my trousers Where's Keith? Where's Keith? Where's Keith? Okay Here's another one Hey, how about Chuck Berry Hey Charlie Thank you Thank you. Hello Los Angeles. Thank you. Thank you. Hello London. Thank you. Thank you. We' we' we're thank you It goes on like that. and I believe it's four minutes. It's fabulous. So good. so good. Yeah That was always what I thought I could do, but I' never But you you're tickling its balls Yeah doing the sash in the Shakespeare show. Yeah, yeah yeah No yeah finally getting to a place of artistic merit I have one friend or maybe I need another qualifier. I have one real friend who does shography Doc Sswan, there's your dock. Oh right Yeah, yeah, yeah. He does just does a classic right out of the books You know, Napoleon Cowboy hat Mexican. Yeah, you know, none He goes through it all and tells a story And um kills me Beuse you know it all ties in with how much I love Overrextended metaphors? Yes. and how much I love gospel magic I love when people are straining, straining, straining to make what they're doing fit in with what they say they're doing. Right Boy, that was just well put. It really was. That's really what I like. I like someone putting a square peg in a round hole. Yes. I'm gonna tell a story using every kind of hat I can make with a felt ring. And by the way, I have no story to tell. And there's a very limited number of hats I can make None of that's convincing. R. It's mostly madeed not In shbography, you're going like, wait, you just wear it like that all the time. Yeah, that's great. That should just be a hat The trouble with is even stupider Who first did trouble with Very hard to find trouble wit routines. Troublewit is like the first guy that ate oysters Yeah I'm to fold this paper forever in different directions and then I'll unfold it It's like a Rude pleasant fast Yankee version. of Origami Right, Like it seems like critical in like the seventeen hundreds or something where if you had to get around and try to make a living, but you really couldn't carry anything Banking I have all I need this giant fan in my pocket and a town square. I can work anywhere. I can work anywhere. Ps Packs small place exactly is the original pack small place. get I get actually three and a half hours out of trouble. Crowd as we think. Let me show you series of let me imitate a series of testimonials for you. But if you did If you did, I'd like to present everything Bick Jagger said is live records. Yes while doing trouble with. while doing shography. You might just win a Nobel prize U What's his name The guy who did the coin flipping thing will Oh, Isley. Isley. ye. Yeah. He sent us a trouble whit routine that he wrote for Pen and telleller. Oh See he's now he's a good friend. Yeah. and I presented it to Teller. That was the end of that. By the way, we have a new opening in our show Get out of town. You know, we've been opening with Poly Eester for a long time. Yeah, yeah yeah. Even though we're doing mostly new stuff on the show. We We got so scared by the opening we did age appropriate Eescape. Yeah, which was a really funny conceptual idea. Was it right for us? Yeah. I was a, you know, I was a big advocate of it. and I went through all of the creatives on that and end up being a really elaborate comedy bit But but but but not with the performance that you guys usually add to your comedy bits. Yeah It was good It was like a sketch. And it was sketch. We don't do sketch as well. Yeah, yeah, yeah I hoped with yeah too quick on that. I think you can do sketches very well I just think your show isn't a show with sketches in it. I think maybe it's just Maybe we could do sketch as well, but no one's ever found out because everyone we've done has been bad. Is that the pointite we're to say? But that wasn't where I was going at all But so we fell back Ply Eester Yes, you know Um and Polyesure iss a great opener Use a child blasph for me Wicked funny Very, very loud Yeah And then Teller finally said, we've been opening with Polyester for too long probleblem that Copperfield and Mac King have never had. Howudi. Howudy here Um So we took this thing, an idea that I had. Yeah. was a telleller should come out just a pad of me on a stand. and We should do the beginning of this show without being it Oh and then We tortured that bit Put it in the middle of the show Ryer does not fit have to walk down a corridor, it's terrible is terrible And the bit ended up being good. It was Ring on the Rose. Yeah. It ended up being good. But it never got the image I wanted Well, also, I think when you first were working on that, I know it was an idea for a while, but what pushed it forward was to create a bit for fool us. And so we kind of made that come to fruition putting your shirt the way it was to get it ready for full loss. Right in the wrong way which is good. It end up good on full. That's blble bah. So we decided to do it the way we always conceived of it I mean, has at onnkor you yell at the audience member and it's the best part What am I? L S D. M I high? Yeah. whichich is my sons. favorite line ever in the show and Zeke's favorite line in the show. Both think would you say what? Am I on L S B I swore. You swore And you said, if it was not true, you would spend eternity giving nude lap daners in hell to Nixon, Hitler Chris Angel But now It's the way It was supposed to be which is just as Jones's finishing up the piano Matt Stanick. runs like halfway down the aisle and leaves a chair there. next to a patron Right? Just a chair And then he splits And Jonesy gives his introduction And I come down the aisle And I sit in the chair And the people next to me are looking over going Why is there a chair? Why is he sitting there And I'm holding an iPhone And it is right in front of my face and then tell her pushes out the stand with my head on it. And I look around because there's no lines at first, right? Because they're just applauding And I'm like nodding my head and saying thank you And the people around there are going Why is he holding a iPhone? And then I go, Good evening. M it's just it blows them out from the speakers and also from being right next to them. And then I do the bit sitt next to somebody in the audi Oh great. And at one point, hand them the camera and walk away to go up on stage Very cool and it's We did the first time last night. Yeah. and first time you've always got this problem, you know Woody Allen talked about it. I know we can't say Woody Allen because he was accused anyway Woody Allen said Boy, this has a lot. A lot of wisdom to it belieelve that Woody Allen actually sticks to this. Yeah. C course he doesn't do stand upp now. so it doesn't matter. He said that when you wrote a joke for your standup act Never tell it to anyone Never bounce it off anyone because one person cannot possibly give you enough H So he would always do his new material in the middle of his biggest shows So the first time he did that joke, it had the best chance of getting the biggest reaction and We feel that a little bit because You run through it, you work on it, you get yourself jacked to highigh heaven. and the audience loves it It turns out that's not enough You know, you walk say We're stoping the show. That's so good. Yeah. And they just go That was good. What's next Wh which is what they should do. But it work very well Very nice. and it's very odd to start your show in the audience Right. W the lights go down, watch the spotlights, watch all of that, watch your face on stage and yet you're sitting in the audience. Yeah It's nuty. You've always watched Telller come on stage to from a side view. Yeah Uh, and is this is the same magic trick at the top? Yeah yeah yeah Although we do it real loud Then go to total silent silent No vocal with music then come back real out Okay, cool. So it's nice. Yeah, yeah, yeah It's fascinating and I got to come see it. Yeah So that's him I bet it will stay in Maybe too long because openers are hard They are hard because openers canan't get good at them. You know, you can put a bit in the middle of your show It's not very good and it will get better Yeah right And then it gets hammocked, right? You take a strong bit Another strong bit put a new bit between it. And it goes well, right keepes getting better And pretty soon it's one of the strong bits you put something else after before. Yeah, But an opener sets the tone for your whole show you've got a show that's tight and polished and you put something Loose and dull at the top Yeah and then have to come back from that Right, right, right Which is I'm saying this in the most dramatic way possible No, I under saying anything I'm like, taking stock in it. but yeah I under juststand everything saying for the audience. Yeah But uh It is hard and most magicians You know Off stage, we'll talk probably comeing up with an opener everyone Everyone always has advice is for everyone else's opener and everybody hates their own opener. It's hard. It's hard.. We had seelfish, which is a great opener. Yeah. And we had poolyester, which is the great opener We even opened with cups and balls with the clear cups and that was a good opener. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Plyester Well, that's the You know, that was that was the Lance Burton problem, right? Yeah. It's all gold takeaking anything out Well who says you can only have ninety minutes of gold? Right. I'm very proud of Polyester, but we got to do other stuff. No, and I think you guys you guys are I think you guys are happy doing your show. I think you're also happy in rehearsals hammering at stuff Well, one of is more than the other. What of his is happy checking his phone Dars Piff is learning that, right? Yeah. because we're doing p pu, by the way You'll love this I'm not going to quote this word for word. I'm going to quote it the way it felt. Okaykay So I had to do the beb over there Morning Sh. yesterday morning. Yeah. I was going to be on at nine thirty which is one thirty AM Vegas time. Yeah. And I go on at you know, I go to bed usually I go to the bathtub to read about midnight Okay. Yeah. So One thirty is that awkward time Yeah R I guess I could sleep an hour and try to get up, but also because it's modern radio It's also video Right. Yes. So I'm going to be on there. So I have to like put on a shirt. Yeah. and I have to sit in front of my U Zoomed and the lights up. Turn the lights up and I have to beat Animated. Yeah. So Mx was very kind Mox and I watched Do no. keepe me up to that amount of time. Nice. And Mox and I are loving Watching Bog We watch and doctor. No, We're going to watch for Russia from Russia with loveove. Yeah. And it's really interesting. too see that was somebody who was born in the twenty first century. Right His box says he's really kind of a dick, but I like him. right? Which is what was always true about Jont. Absolutely Yeah And Mark says Does he just assume every woman's going to sleep with him I said, yes and they do. Right. And we saw Ursal Andras come out ye And the great Spider scene You remember the spider sc Sean Connery was a tough guy. Yeah, a really tough guy Dilly, billy and what Sean Contery did like James Bond riding up on the outdoor elevator at circus Circus. Yeah. he's really standing there You know, he did a lot of not his own stunts, but his own dangerous stuff. Yeah. But he had bad arachnophobia Now in the original Doctor No this I mean, the book, Doctor No It's a centipede C centipedes are deadly And it's a long sequence in Dr. No of a centipede running all over James Bond's body And he can't move If he moves, it's going to kill him It's a long, horrifying scene. illing get But they didn't want to use a centipe because it moves too fast and it'll kill you. But it moves too fast, which is problem we have with the roaches on letterman. Right. We had to get slow moving roaches because the real roaches There was no trick The ro gone. Uh, because they're you know, they're photo phhautophobic, right? Yeah, they're averse to light. What I said and uh So But Sean Contery, tough guy, mister. Tough guy said he was terrified of Spider Terrified. Yeah And they said, we got to have a spider crawling on you. And they said, No. That was my Sean Cony. No. So They lied to him Okay Spy do they use the tarantula, terantula tarantula right? Big fat tarantulum They are They have a venomous bite Bite is as bad as a wasps thing It won't kill you. But it's miserable. Yeah. But Tarantula is rarely, rarely bite You can have one as a pet T years. on how long they live and it'll never bite you, even though you handle it everything They're very rare they bite you You gott to like step on them into your shoe or something, you know Okay I any know about racials from Home Alone. So I know you can try to hit with a crow bar and it won't bite. Yeahah So They lied to Sean Connery and said that it was a deadly venomous spider taking out its venom sexs. Be they didn't want to try to tell them if this stings you, it'll hurt like a wasp. Yeah. So they lied to them Okay And they also lied to another way They said they had an animal Wangler from Hollywood who was an expert at spiders. They actually had a prop guy went out in the desert and caught one Oh Jad Cottage Jamican spider J just caught it and then brought it in and then pretended to be an animal Wangler and said, this is my spider Rosie. I've had her for years. The venom's been taken out Whereas the guy really didn't know what spider it was. And back then there's no iPhone. You can't pull out his phone and go, what the fuck can you take venom out of spiders? Yeah, exactly Exactly. I know if you're doing a scorpion gag Yeah, where you put scorpions in your face and your mouth and stuff like for Jim Rose' circus. Yes, they clip the end of the stinger and put nail polish on it Oh probably hurts like a bastard or the scorpion. Sure, but they can't sting anymore. or that's where someone figure Yeah. I remember Matt King got stung by a scorpion at our local paper The review journal reported he'd been bitten B a scorpion Yeah. And I called them said, Thank goodness, you were bitten by a scorpion and not stung by one Because being bitten by a wasp is nothing. Right. Yeah Yeah yeah, yeah That's great. So Yeah They have He still wouldn't let it on him. Yeah So they have a prop guy letting it crawl in his arm And in continuity, they have it crawling on the prop guy's left arm Yeah. and In the close up, it's the right arm But they put a piece of glass between Sean Connnery And the and Rosie. It's just call her Rosie. The Rosie, okay? Yeah And u Rosie Um which is's very good at holding on to things. Yes. rightight. They can crawl up a wall glass is too difficult for them So they had to angle it So he has glass over him and the spider is floating Because you can't really see the glass, but you can see that the spider's not touching it It's floating above them. And so in the movie, which I can't remember if I've seen Dr. No, watching tonight is wonderful. Your children will love it Eespecially reversal Andras comes out of the ocean, they'll go, Oh, there's feelings they haven't had before, dad. You'll say, Dan damn skippy. and feelings your dad hasn't had in a while. Also there's Silandr is old dub she had a Heavy German accent or Austrian or something. Oh right. And they wanted to make your S Jamaic it Oh my Godd. But anyway M When one is watching Dr. Non, am I to believe that the spiders on top of Sean Cutting was supposed to see the glass I believe that's what the director would have told the producers. Okay Yeah It does not look that the spider's on it. Looks like the spider is magically floating above them B We've had a hard time getting rosy. to move up towards Sean Connery's face. So they tied a thread to Rosie. And this same prop guy who was a animal reg expert for Bollywood. For that afternoon. Yeah. He was tugging a little threb Pulling a spider on a piece of glass towards Sean Contery Wh is without any makeup whatsoever, flops w. I mean, it's Probably the most distress you've ever seen a person in. rightight And then he throws the spider off him And it lands on the side of the bed and he beats it with his shoe And the way he beats it with his shoe is insane He hits it like he's trying to kill a moose over and over again. Now Rosie's not there, right But they shot it right after the rosy scam So Sean Connery is covered with sweat Jack to high heaven and he will not stop bag in that shoe gets the floor too the point that you actually laugh Now the spider is pulverized What are we doing? Making a part of the carpet? And then I got to tell the happy ending because now I now care about stuff like this. Rosie? was untied harmlessly untied. Her venom sacks were intact And she was carried back to the exact point in the desert. where she was picked up to live the rest of her life telling your friends Wow, how did I have a fucking dream First of all, they call me Rosie. I don't know why they put a chick's name on me, but they call me Rosie. Then they bring me near this Scottish guy with a tattoo covered up with makeup and an accents from nowhere And he starts sweating. It's so fucking disgusting. You ever seen a person sweat? It's disgusting. Made my hair stand on end And they knew that it was disgusting. So they put a piece of glass between me and him. So I wouldn't be too disgusted. but I was still there and they're saying, walk towards his face and I'm going, fuck you I am not walking toward that disgusting face It's disgusting. think One of my six legs will move towards his face in anyway.ight. Damn it And they got these mouths that are like wet And they got no pincers And their faces, they got two eyes and they're not compound. It's disgusting. And I'm like a foot and a half from them So I'm trying to, you know, I'm trying to get the fuck out of there And they tie a rope to me And they tug me up this glass. and then After all the lights go out, they put in the lights again and he goes and gets to his knees and bangs a shoe. And then boat, I'm back here. It was so psychedllic Hey Rosie. We're gonna call you Rosie. Hey no, don't do that guys, really Don't fucking do that. You wantna see my venom sacks? They're still there Hey, Rosie, Cut it out Rosie, whether I believe you're weird story or not, you still miss Dad's birthday. He's still upsessed. Yeah So That's it. And we also Yeah, and you for the radio, you were stonging for the radio. That's what I was doing. Stong for the radio So I go on. it's nine thirty in the morning over there. Yeah and they're all excited about the World Cup. And they play me on with Dylan, which is pretty great. Yeah. And she uses all those icon legends and then says a sentence that I know Bernie Human would not like her saying The most famous magic duo of all time Probably something David Copperfield would not like her saying Really, the biggest magic legends we have Okay, but she's doing hyperbole. She's herob. She's not going to say, here's another dip shit we got on. Here's another time we couldn't get Tom Jones. rightight? Well She She could have said top five. Yeah she could have And then she they playlay Me on with like a Rolling Stone by Bob Dylan. Yeah. And she says for fifty years, Penns been like a Rolling Stone and certainly not a complete unknown Here's Penjullete right betterter And I come on and then she asked me not This concisely Pretty much she asked me this. Had it been following the World Cup? or were you too excited about the Kicks winning? Oh man Well, I'm not really a sports fan And she said, Well, so the Nicks have gotten all your attention I said, Well, no, that that's sports. She Well, basketball is bigger. in the U S. than soccer, right? Yeah. I go Yes That's not the issue we're dealing with here I's funny, I haveve friends who work on the strip just talking about how many brand new mix jerseys they're seeing being worn around town. I just People clearly weren't lifelong fans because they got caught up in the story of the summer for sports or whatever. But I had to, you know talk about Piff and pops Magic shop. Yeah. And also veryery excited about Mr. Piffles Yes, right So I am at One thirty AM And I am trying to show enthusiasm For football, basketball, and a dog. I gonna say. And Piff is very adept at this point of knowing that some people are just excited dog is there and nothing else. But also Piff loves the dog. Right. Okay. Yeah. And then I say And it really is clowned. And she goes I go, he paays sixty thousand dollars to have his dog call. So now I have to kind of defend why I'm coming to England with a psychopath. And also, if Pith is so goddamn rich, why is he doing a tour Oh interesting. Yeah, because You pay sixty thousand dollars for a clone dog? Yeah. You don't have to go to work that day. Right Hello If someone said We're going to renew your contriry to the Rio only if you pay sixty thousand dollars to clone a dog We youin to Derby? Yeah Then give the dog a piff. Yeah. Yeah, I don't think what I just described is dissimilar to that. Yeah Pith is now learning Watch how this comes together. Okay. Now learning about me in rehearsal Aes, yeah, ye Piff says, we got to rehearse the u the u Piff and pop show I said, we absolutely do. Yeah. And Piff says I've been talking to Glenn And we think it's best if we lay out the whole stage for rehearsal We lay out all the tricks we're going to do. We get all the props ready Get all the tricks working for like a week and then bring you in for two hours of rehearsal I said, yeah She should do So that's what Piff's doing. Okay. He's learned. Yeah. becauseuse Glenn told him, you know, some startling facts about Ben and Teller And I've said this before. we opened on Broadway. Yeah. We opened on Broadway in a two man show. Yeah. first Broadway run. Yeah. Millions of dollars invested. You know who was not at any rehearsals M you were not anous. No, I was not. I did not go Wasn't I didn't pay attention Was that I sat in the back reading a paper. Yeah. I did not show up So rehearsals were, I believe. ten AM to seven PM every day for a week in the theater, and I wasn't there. Tell Teller would come in with lighting designers, set designers, the whole crew Ben and telleller and there was only one of them there Yeah. ye H I guess because I've mostly worked I worked O in fools for things are pretty hands on going to fools. Yeah And then I worked a lot with you guys coming out of the pandemic U That's not how it describe you in rehearsal. No, But that's the way I was during Broadway. Yeah. And I should say, I mean just to make this story somewhat believable. Yeah. The last day I came in And we did the final run throughs and the dress with me And when I say the dress with me, I was not dress. No, no. and that's it. like that part't surprised me. And being facidious about chair placement and lighting looks and that kind of stuff. U you'll put in your vote, but you don't tend to want to see a. I don't want to do that. No, no, no I have I have a thing here or there, but not not Yes The piff and pop show U We've got it written and by written I mean we have the tricks in the order. We're going to do them And how much because so Yeah, how much of a partner are you at all the tricks? Very big. Okay. We're doing a version of Battle of Dreams. Yeah. doinging a version of dononut, doing a version of misdirection. Yeah. doing a lot of pen and teller type stuff although nothing from the Palladium show Okay That's not true One thing for the Palladium show. Okay. because Piff doesn't want an overlap Over Yeahah. But it's selling very well And there I think we're doing eleven dates Lleven dates in in My English friends are telling me You have to be more like Mike Nazmeth than this. When Mike and Nesbeth T were the monkeys. Yeah The other monkeys were doing a job. Mike Desb was fucking around. So the other monkeys, the three of them. Yeah shared a tour bus with the band Uhu. Mike and Desmuth had his own tour bus by himself with a guy to make him cappuccinos in the morning. So he was traveling in his living room. Yeah. and they were traveling in bunks. Yeah. Mike Desmh did not make any money on any of the monkeys tours. Yeah. he just enjoyed paid. put all that into touring plus more. Yeah. They've told me You're gonna to be going in a van piff and a dog from this place to this place I go, I don't know that's what it says. They say, you're going to take a train or you're going to get a driver And I go, Okaykay. and they say, you're staying in this hotel with Biff and and I go, Yeahah, and they go No, you're not, you're going be staying across the street. So we'll see. We'll see how much of it is a Nz tour. But it looks exciting I think it'll be great. And you know H I believe from the reaction Piff and I are pretty funny together. Yes. Also, we've got a new way to do it now I told you that I absolutely tanked to do Um interterviews in character. Yes. So now we did a lot of promos for England and they're really I don't think we got the angle perfect goes, Hi, I'm Piff the Magic Dragon. And I go, Hi, I'm Pop, the original Magic Dragon. or maybe I'm just Penn in a dragon suit. And he goes, No, you're pop. And I go, I don't feel like a dragon at all. He goes Cuy is Yeah, yeah. That's the right angle. Oh yeah, no, were my kids that were watching your promos and they're very funny Like it was imitating you as a matter of fact. Was you? Yeah? Woo. You were wooing after every city? After every city. Be I didn't know where the cities were. I had nothing to say. Woo. And then I also kept saying, he's a rock cop It's a ride car We tried doing one with PIiff doing an American accent and me doing an English accent And that did not make it through That's hard. That's hard But I think it's going to be a blast. we're performing at the magic castle August tenth, eleventh and twelfth Oh great. Piff and Pop's magic shop. And please, if you're even thinking Piff and pop's magic shop, make sure that shop is spelled S HO PP E. Yes. That's the way shop is spelled. Yeah. Piff and Pop's magic shop Amazing. yeah I come I got to look to see if I'm available. I wantan to come out see one of these shows. ImZultted'll be at one of them For mice He He's not going to go to England, but he'll be he'll be at one of them And I don't know if Mox is going to see it or not. I think Mox is in France during. Yeah And then they're in school during the during the big English tour Oh nice. So I'll be over there T Ting in a van Jade, I think a crew of seven. Yeah and a dog Okay. so there we go It's exciting th Really exciting, really exciting. you know, u I haven't played, it's really funny. I haven't played places this size. years Right because it's mostly under a thousand seats. Yeah. So it's funky places. You know, when Teller and I go on the road, we're now playing threeree to five thousand se places We're playing huge places. It would be nice to get in the funk again Yeah, I think it's different Joking and adlibbing when you feel like the whole audience is bouncing with you in a small intimate space is kind of fun. Yeah, when you get to a few thousand People in the back are really watching you. Yeah. You don't really have a direct connection. Yeah. I won't say they're watching you on TV. They are, but they're also in the atmosphere. Yeah, yeah. And they also know that Things are happening that have never happened before But it's still not the same as being in a four hundred seat theater. No, you know, even from your own Rio Like if someone pipes up in those first in your orchestra seats, you can just pop it up in conversition. Anytime someone really yells from the back, you have to stop and go like What did you say? L you have to like really give it, give it some attentions. It's just hard Well we have we also have trank guns So you don't ever have a chance to find out what they said. Right. There' at least Hey, we back You know, like the Tk guns they should have had on the Tigers for Siegfriy and Roy. Right Oh, he's trying to lower my blood pressure. No, he's eating your head. I want to talk a little bit about lifelong learning. I didn't do it yet? 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So where were we whereere we talk about piff, talkking about piff Morning talk shows, piff Oh yeah U Yeah, so I think I did okay. Yeah. A going back over to England. What was last time you were over there? You you guys just did your fifteth anniversary over there?? Yeah, we just at the palladium in September. So it's a year from when I was there last. Okay And uh, I don't know. do I have to get a, um A burer phone to come back in the United States? Right because they might check it on the way in, right? No I'm not kidding. I know. My friend Andrew Hickey you know, does five hundred songs. Yeah. Rock and roll history, five hundred songs which is incidentally the best podcast. If you haven't listened to it, stop listen to this one you go to that one. D ye. Andrew Hickey says It was so sad in one of his podcasts, he just said You know, I used to come over to the United States every year. I don't imagine I'll be doing that again in my lifetime This is tough. And I have other friends who are trying to British citizens tryrying to go from Mexico to U.S. for a for the World Cup Yeah. and, you know, um Their whole phones were searched completely. And I have another friend who's Wicked famous and on TV And let's say not a Trump supporter. Right He went overseas and wouldn't take his laptop or his phone with him Oh wow Yeah. And I'm wondering I don't want Some guard happens to recognize me and have a heart on about Trump I don't want them going through my whole computer and phone I have a friend who's of Egyptian descent in America as a citizen Uh Iice in his neighborhood. And we were stopped by them. And He was kind of not surprised, but they said So you have your papers on you need to see your papers They said the word papers. In other words, like to mimic like Nazi Germany. Yes, because we don't have We don't carry papers. No So he said, do you my passport? that said, yes, your passport. but he corrected them the passport. They said papers. And also American citizens do not need to carry their passports on. yes, they do. I mean, guess so, but like But like purposefully use Nazi terminology in a way that we totally antiquated to today. Doesn't fit. No, does not just to scare the living shit out of someone. Right. And that does not come from that person. That's toped down. Right? I mean, I don't I don't know Whoever, you know what I mean? likeike what are you doing Either way, it's bad. Yeah either they hired an idiot. Yeah or they're training idiots. Yes. Either way is bad. Yeah. Yeah, it's horrible. And I shouldn't be saying this. because we earn our living People coming to Vegas and I've now just made an argument don't come to Vegas. No, I mean someone who started their own Vegas residency finally at the worst possible time Uh yeah. J Just bring your papers, dummy. If you weren't guilty, you would have your papers on you. Sure. U I'm joking we're like My mood falls with how easily I arrive to work, right? Like, Ohh, I just zippped right down to the strip, No problem. didnn't hit a light No problem That means no one's coming to my show. You know, we were up in Toronto. Yeah. we did like ten thousand people, right? Yeah. twow days And afterwards at the meet and greets Something was said to us over and over. You know, we used to come see your show every year in Las Vegas But now we're glad you're coming up here. And even Vegas itself, like the combination of both the national trial sometimes and than Vegas. Like I remember we all started using social media when it first came around, Twitter, Facebook, whatever, and just kind of came this instant kind of social utility And it wasn't it wasn' until later where The nefariousness of algorithms were exposed and the personalities of the CEOs and other people in power at these organizations started to put a certain phone on the thing you were using. And also, I think this is really true I No Jeff Beizos. Yeah. I've met I don't know him well, but I've been You've been you've've you've been had drownings with him. And I also have mutual friends. Yeah They say that these people did not start out bad They just went crazy. Yeah You know, these people that became Trump supporters. Yeah were actually okay people. And now they're just, you know, trying to get a bigger yacht tried to go to space Yeah Yeah, Jesus. I mean Yeah. And and what happens analogously is that's actually what happened to this town. It used to say used to say Las Vegas. whoa, it's exciting. Yeah. C Las Vegas Oh, I gott to go check I when I moved here, suddenlybody came to vis because they're like o Oh,hot I knowone in Veg. I gotta go, right And the kind of feeling of Expenses rising, nickel and diming, things that cost everything costing a little bit more than you want and more things costing money that used to be free U has now hurt Vegas' reputation the way finding out, you know Yes, exactly. Yeah. like finding out who, you know Mark Zuckerberg, who Mark Zuckerberg really was affected your use of Faceb. who Mark Zuckerberg became? Yeah, good point. good point. But discovering who Mark Zuckerberg became. U hurt your enthusiasm for using Facebook, right? Sure. And so get off it Yeah, right. and that's thing off Twitter And I think that's what's happening to our town Like I really think it's analogous to that. like we really people don't find it Awesome and exciting. You solve that by doing a big movie of Rocky Horror Pictures. You were gonna fly in from all over for that Well,, I told you that like, you know, for the Golden Knights, they gave free parking out of the two casinos next door. I was like, okay, so you do know how to do that. So you do know how to just say, you know what are bad. For the next few days. Gates up. That would be a huge gesture at least the Californians are not people to drive in here all the time. Yeah And also I think maybe not putting people into dention a week to want to come into our country. I know. I know that's that's why like like u You know, we try not to get too bogged down this stuff here and Paching love and all that I'm actually upset with the conversation happening about the algae in the pools in the fling pool I want to scream. We actually don't give a shit about this.. There's so much worse shit happening. Yeah. We we Yeah the United States of America. Yeah killed twenty five thousand Africans. Right. Right when he came into office. Yeah. Let's just stay on that. Yeah Yeah, yeah. Yeah. And we do have U a specific agency using literally Nazi tactics to intimidate and disrupt the lives of our citizens who are Although egally S some will put up a big side over a highway that said He can't even defeat Alche He's a little funny Yeah, you know, u That was what I was thinking on the way over. I guess let's not get bggged in this but I'm just going to say one more thing. which is to get bogged in it Um which is Once you start an immoral war Yeah is the moral move to lose it O. I mean Do we let Those u You know, the fact that he's now calling people that kill women for showing their hair kill their own citizens. They're pretty nice. They're smart guys. What? U it's a mess It's a m it'sorrible Um So I want anybody who wants to write in to what is it QQuion penagemmail. com. Yeah, question penetaggemail.ot com Is anybody having trouble getting back into the country Piff and I have to worry. Um, I don't know. We just did the worst segment of our show we could have possibly done. We just shot our dicks off, didn't we? You were you You're speaking hest sphere in a way that you that basically would be laughable you know, any other time for you For you hetero white dude talking about having your phone like that going to come back to your own country was laughable up until I guess you can leave stuff in the cloud. I don't know. I don't know either. And the thing is like, I don't even know what happens when they do look at your shit. I don't know. I don't know what happens.es maybe they just maybe they just dicks to you and make you wait two hours at the airport That's happens to my friend I had Every airport. The other thing is I had a meet and greet. Yeah. There was an Argentinian magician Yeah. S just flewing from Argentina said wasas there any problem? He said, No. So there's the other story. Rightight? Exactly. And that's what I mean. It's like I think it's not that like this is definitely happen to everyone all the time. But it is happening to some people and we don't know we don't know what the boundaries are Uh on it Yeah H intention. Not just love Argentina, though Yes, they're planning on going there U And you know, Hondro always goes by the name Hro. Yeah. H last two names are Garcia Lopez. Right. whichich is also the name of drug cartel people. Right. So last time he's going to New York he was stopped Yeah you, know, I have a friend who's a hairdresser. he gets it get stopped at international Airports And his last name is the name of a drug cartel name Yeah. Uh it's it's weird But a lot of the drug cartels also did hair, didn't they? goodood point. When does not rule out the other. Yes, you wantan to be careful about that or then but then you talk to independent, you know, people u grow marijuana in states that where it's legalized, but not on the federal level and you find out that cartels kind of do whatever they want here all of the suden. Yeah So it's it's a weird. It's a really weird time It is a really, really weird time. Is that where we're going to end on? I don't know, but do you think this is maybe why you're not sleeping if you were, you know, I remember u Mike Armstrong. Yeah, who was really funny writer. worked for Stehen Wright Work for Piff. Yeah. works for us Um I remember Mike Armstrong used to say When I used to sleep well, he said, I never trust people who sleep well I think people have a clear conscience and sleep really well. I believe Hitler slept really well. He said, youre if you're not up all night worrying, there's something wrong with you. Yeah. So that may be the world we live in now. Yeah Uh No, I mean, I honestly do think it's wondering why why some of my friends are se speressing Trouble sleeping, I think things are getting crazier than we want it to be. And even the way nots the end of the world, and you can't actually tune it out likeike you used to be able to Yeah The fact that Vegas be just this Vegas is hotter than it's ever been. And it's not Lake Lake is going to be lower than it's ever been. It's not like Newfoundland is hotter than it's ever been. This is Vegas. And our friend said to me, so What does Vegas do when It gets hotter and all the water's gone. I said Die? What's the other choice We did honestly and this is funny because this would be I think Dystopian in the movie or something, but we did just broke a deal with to get more drinking water with the desalinization company in California for drinking water here That's a good sign. I think it's really good sign. And you know blowing up other people's desalination plants or threatening to do them? Yeah'. Yeah I don't know. But we're continueing to entertain people. Sure. As a matter of fact, we're gonna to talk about this because at one of your shows Yeah here in Vegas, you may have a special guest. Yeah. I'm short of that, yeah yeah. Tell us about where your show is and everything that's important. Somem performing every Tuesday and Wednesday over at the magicians's rooom four thirty PM It is family friendly. If you want to save thirty five percent on tickets, they're already very affordable tickets. al They're already one twentieth of a concert to come see it. It's weird The code is scoos, but you don't enter the code. I had a big email chain about exchange about this. When you go to the ticket master page, before you even click on seats, you'll see a thing at the top of the page that says unlock cod in there, not at the discount code thing at check out. So it's really annoying you want to say fifty five percent Look for the unlock button at the top of my ticket master page. hit that. type in scoops. 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