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Recently I've been harvesting the goods and giving them out to everybody farmer style Yeah , we actually have a couple citrus trees in our backyard that I've been putting into little cardboard boxes that are kind of chic from online and it makes me feel like I'm actually an Etsy style grapefruit farmer . Wow Did you have ice coffee earlier? Actually no, I didn't yet the miss I started to sip and as I can feel my heart go es take it you already had two this morning. This is number three. Take a little time out from the coffee, so I set it back on over there. But I'm obviously on the show with Sequoia Holmes and Ryan Graham . I'm the Sequoia Holmes in that. And thank you so much for being here, both of you. Thank you for having us. This is so fun. Oh my gosh. We've already had like a little bit of a chat before. It's been so great. It's nice. I also realize I've noticed how big your feet. This is a hole aside. Very like, I just looked for the first time. What shoe do you wear? Size fourteen. Are they custom? No they're not I love they feel do I keep off that I'm picking back shocks The most common shoe but I love the idea that I only have custom shoes. I think that would be really nice. That's what it feels like. fourteen is like, where do you find? They're huge. I will say I can only usually shop for shoes online because thirteen is the if I go to like a chic store, they end at thirteen. Of course, of course. thirteen, I feel like is a hard fight sometimes. Yeah, truly I don't know the last one I saw that. They don't freak and care for yeah by the way freaking big feet gang in the chat rise up. Okay . F's in the chat for feet , but Sequoia and Ryan, thank you that,'s right. Sequina and Ryan, what makes you too perfect to be on the show today to answer the people's calls? There's a lot. I think Ryan can answer for me. So Sequoia is perfect . So I'll see you guys pass that to me. So Koi and I are perfect for this show because we every day get together and chat about what is going on in the world. We have a show called Freshly Popped where we talk about all the celeb gos. And so we are perfect at analyzing people 's lives because we have done the work ourselves. Sequoia specifically has done a lot of work. She helps me perfect. Oh , why Sequoia 's crazy? Sequoia is perfect because I'm trying to find you finding it . Oh, is it taking a minute? It is Sequoia. Yeah, here we go. Perfect. Yeah . Great teeth. . Great teeth. Absolutely can confirm. Great team confirm. Bryan admitted on our show that he definitely thought about some of his female friends like he's like, oh, if I were straight, this would be good. Yeah. And I was like, I know he's talking about me . And I immediately said absolutely the fuck . Like it didn't even take a beat, like the moment she left her . She went, oh yeah, she goes, Oh, me he's out of me immediately. No, never thought of it. And I have no absolutely not your sound. , not a nothing. Have you not said that about, right? It's not about right. The thing is, I'll tell you, we argue all the time. So that's what I'm saying I'm like, we would do nothing but fight in argument. Arguing fun to? Arguing can be fun. Can it? It can be. Do depending on where argue all the time? Oh, sure. I mean, like, it depends on what the argument's about. It could be a fun little like oh, we're doing this. Well no , it can be flirtation. Your favorite movie stupid. Oh, okay. That's interesting . You see, you see how we arrive at now you see. Now you see where we go. That's interesting. Yeah, I just, you know what, I love you too much as a friend and I think that is why. I wouldn't want to ruin our friendship, sure with the relationship . That's what I definitely have you never, like I guess with YouTube, being straight people. I wanna be straight people, being straight people. Have you ever had my male friends or people like if I were gay, that's who I would date? Yeah, I mean, that's interesting . I'm wondering. I'm like, yeah, 'cause I'm definitely had there are a couple of girlfriends I've had where I'm like, oh, this could work . But well, you know what's funny is like I have friends that are I've never been like would I be the with this person? But I do feel like I have friends that are so close. It's like there's so much intimac y there, but I don't know, yeah, I guess. Huh. I've never thought I've never I don't think I've ever thought about it, but I'm like, I guess maybe it's because like it was it's not heteronormative for me . So I remember specifically being it was in college, one of my friends, Kelly James shops, Kelly James. We were walking in a target and like I was just like, we were just doing mundane activities. And I remember looking at her and I was like , could I date Kelly? It was so that me. I like'm, I'm fully gay . I was a town. No. I can't go targeting now. I can go somewhere else. Let's go to Target. Yeah, I guess yeah, yeah, yeah, I guess. But yeah, I don't know. It was just, I think there was something about doing something so mundane with her, I was like , I could. Yeah. Yeah, maybe we've never done anything normal. Have we ever so many mundane things? It was like I hated every second . Yeah. One time never for a second horrible. Glad that's one Koia touched me and I legitimately like jump. He literally energetically was like can jump. Bad energy. After he brought a bad spirit into my house. No way. I did a seance at my home. I told him I didn't want to do a fucking seance like a week . Yeah. No, wait, no, no. OG, but it was like, I had like candles lit and like I think I looked at like some sat on the floor . I was chanting in a language I'd never heard . I said, Ryan stop. You know? He said no. He was summoning something. I'm a fraid. We're having a slumber party. You know what's crazy? That night, I did get sick. I like the middle of the night. I didn't. I had to go throw up. That is real. I have summoned a demon and you fucking vomit it. It has the audacity to recoil at me. Heaven. No, he didn't call the demon to me. Hey, but it came to yeah, yeah. Hello. Shots fucked up. That was crazy. So you summoned a little goblin and it made you vomit. It did. It was great. I don't 'cause we both ate the same thing. Forget what we ate, but in the middle of the night, I woke up and I was like, oh, I woke up in the middle of the night, Ryan was not in the bed anymore. You said he was in the ceiling like areditary style in the corner. This people really scared me. Oh my god. And you guys remember Momo, do you guys remember Momo? Yes. Oh yes , yes. Did we look at it up that night too? It was a different night. That's the thing that if you saw it, people were like, you're gonna die. Yes. Look at that Momo was really scary. So we look at it. It's actually the problem and then it acts like I'm the problem do you see? do Yeah, I see this. Yeah, Ryan's passing a lot of the blame. I am because I do love demon shit. I love it. Do you love it? I love it. I find it so fun. I'm about to do a couple like spooky things, no spoilers for this like YouTube thing we're doing and I am trying to be like, I don't know if like it does freak me out. But I've never have you ever seen a ghost? No, I've never seen one, but there was an experience I had where we heard a loud boom, but I had missed someone fucking with us. Like it was a group of us in a park in high school and my friend was describing a demon that attacked him. And he was like yeah. He said he was he was like right before his grandfather passed, there was like he would see a spirit every night coming to his room and he was like one night it wasn't a white light, it was a dark light. It came underneath his door. It lifted up and he was like, it stood over me and his words were, and then and we in the distance here like a boom, like a loud. And I'm asleep. And we all just scatter because we were terrified. It was a nice . But now looking back, I'm sure someone was like in the park and fucking with us, but it felt in the moment very serious . That's the closest thing I've ever had. I think it's a human now. I don't know. Have you ever seen a ghost, either of you? No. I've felt presences of ghosts. I've never seen you did. Yeah, I feel presence of ghosts right now. Often, not right now, but like it's like a regular occurrence. Really? I have a dead dad, so I always just assume it's my dad. It feels good. Oh, it's a good positive presence. Usually it's a positive presence. There was one that used to live in my old apartment and it was a man but it was not my dad and it was not negative , but it wasn't positive either it was kind of benign. It was like Steve. Very much very much. One day I touched my roommate and she said out loud, she was like, You can be here. Don't ever touch me again and he never touched her. Wait , that is such you were like, I'm never really out of experience in the mood . You gotta touched my roommate. She told him to stop. No. What are we talking about? Really respectful respectful . He said, you know what? He said sorry consent is amazing. I love a where he was he try'ings been to ask for consent for a while. One hundred percent making noises like he's been like, you're cool, but like, actually you can't touch me. Don't touch Boundary . That's it. That's it . So we' neverll be more Steve. Stop being there. We're just friends. That is amazing. Oh my gosh, wow, I can talk about that forever, but we have got to get to the freaking perfect person speed round so we can calibrate your advice so that when we get on the phone with the callers, we're on the same page like a freaking buddy cop movie. I love it. Okay , all right, perfect word and speed round starts now, perfect sandwich. A taco . Jersey Mike . Taco is really taco specifically sandwich, shrimp, taco? Yeah, yeah. Why is a taco not a sandwich? Explain. I guess it is, but if you're being like annoying . A tortilla is a piece of bread. I've heard people be like a hot dog is a sandwich. I've never heard people say a taco was a sandwich. Same concept. Ice cream, by the way, ice cream sandwich. I would have accepted. I would say that's the wow that is the perfect ice cream sandwich. That's really good. That is a good one. Perfect salad dressing. Caesar, ranching. Are you ranching a salad? I'm Caesaring a salad, but I'm ranching literally anything I can To Caesar. A salad . Perfect text to receive when you wake up. Good morning, beautiful. Oh morning Yeah. Morning beautiful. I don't know, that's good enough. I'll take that. I like that. Money's in the account. Direct deposit. Oh , direct deposit. By the way, are you a direct deposit notification? Yeah, absolutely. It's cash day. Yeah. Yes. Perfect celebrity. Arianne Grande. Yeah. Really? Perfectly imperfect. I think she is flawed in ways, but in ways that I'm like, you know what I think she owns. I like? I her like. her Standard Beyonce. Yes, standard. Rihanna, honestly. Rihanna. Okay, perfect karaoke song. I believe in thing called love by why do I not know the name of it? The Daire? Isn't that not the Daire? Why is that band's name? They were like a one hit wonder. I'm bamming. Oh yeah, who is that? It's a one hit wonder, but that song. Yeah. God, great song. I'm gonna break my heart. Ooh, I'm not sure Also very good. Perfect restaurant in Los Angeles. Rainforest Cafe. Clam Jumper. Clam jumper? Clam jumper, which is like a California specific also chain restaurant. It's nice. Yeah, yeah. What's the CBK you said? Rainforest cafe. Oh sorry, why did I invent CBK? CBA exists California as well. Yeah. Okay, yeah, rainforest cafe. I haven't been to a rainforest cafe in a fucking day. The rainforest are dying and that is an important cause of mine since Is' time for making this state itself for the Rainforest Cafe. Do it. I'm going to say the rainforest cafe are dying we have. I'm Rain Grey The Rainforest ation is real. Save the Rainforest Cafe.. Yeah Perfect plant to have in your house. Alovera, popos. Oh yeah, poposcott. But you cannot kill that. I've killed my father so many times and been like, there's no way it's coming back and then nevertheless. She persisted . She always presented. And still I arrive. Perfect movie to rewatch. The Tita Girls. Oh, I'm really good. Pirates of the Caribbean. Whoa. We were just talking about this this morning actually, but yeah, I love it. That's a classic kid. It gives you that like kid franchise. Yeah, it's fun. That I really, really love. Perfect coffee order. Ice coffee, splash of almond milk and a pump of vanilla. Ooh, that was okay. Specific. All right. Ice matcha latte , almond milk, a pump of vanilla. Oh , you see he said coffee ? And what about it? I'm sorry . And what about it? That is my coffee. Oh, that's and that's the boy. That's coffee . Very mode. Not all of us are cooking. I love it. Take a milk . And then finally, dream blunt rotation at a star studded party. Brianna. Oh man, I'd be so nervous to smoke a blunt. I think she would smoke me out like I would be I'll be so high. Yeah, yeah, I'm like I embarrass myself. I just feel like I need you to like me. Have you seen pit? Wow, that's a good one. Yeah. Mission go by Miami because probably was a little coke. Yeah, sure. Yeah, yeah. Who will offer for the party? It'll be fun. Betty White came to mind. Do they have to be alive? Is Betty White dead? She is. Yes, she just died a couple years ago. He seems like she would be fun. Betty White's smoking a blunt Neil de Grass and Tyson. Oh yeah. He's so fun. He's like explaining cosmos. It's gonna be so fun. Yeah. And then you need like a wild card. And the first, Judge Osiwa. Wh noty? Siwa. That is actually not my yeah, I actually don't want to smoke a bloom. Judge Osiah. I'm sorry a blood butt , but seeee, it's like what the fuck? This is the same fun circle Ron is like, who's the fuck in my girl? Who brought away from here? Real, yeah. Yeah, Joe Josew smoking a blunt is a poster I'd like to have, but I would not like to be in the rotation, I don't think. I don't want the poster. What if it's all? My thing is like I feel like it's all a front. Like she's probably the most calm person behind the scenes. You're still , I think she's probably so chill. Like they're like it's all. I cannot believe it. The camera goes up and she's like , she's like , okay guys , let's actually go. I have to what is to go hang out at home. I mean, we saw her celebrity big brother. She was oh, you're right, that's fair. Oh, yeah. 'Cause the cameras were always on. I'm telling you when those cameras off, she just does that three months up. That's my subway dig. JoJo C was actually very relaxed. Yeah, completely disagree. I disagree. Well, you've successfully passed the C round . IFR. I feel like we should get a ding. Oh, that's good. Thank you We have got to get to the freaking phone calls. But before we do, if you like the show then consider rating and subscribing to it on whatever platform you listen so you don't miss an episode. And if you love the show, then consider joining us on Patreon where you can get the ad free extended version of every single episode where Sequoia was attacked by a spider before the theme song even started. That's crazy. You got it. It's really, really funny. Incredibly fun. Incredible. Incredible . I'm just gonna do it again. Incredible swerve. 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Visit cozy. com that's COZ EY dot com The home of possibilities Mate is easy I'm Miles. I am calling because still live with my ex boyfriend . We actually still share a bed unfortunately . And have to have the conversation with him about asking him to move out. And I don't know how to approach that. Wow. Talk to you. Thank you so much. We have to park. Sell this as if it was his idea. We can tell him get the fuck out. Wait, I get the hell hell out. Hello. Damn, okay, there's so many questions that I have about it that like we don't have the context for 'cause I'm like, Help . About to talk to her? Yeah, of course I love this. Hello . Hello, you call me every person and I'm here to call you back. I'm Miss Goya and Ryan. Hi. Oh my god. How are you? Thank you so much for calling us, Cori. What's the fake name for this person? Hot girl two hundred seven. Hot girl two one seven and Ryan, what is the fake name for the ex boyfriend? Carl. Carl. Fuck Carl Carl God, hate Carl. I am shitting my pants right now. Hot girls don't shit their pants. Hot girls don't their pants. Hot girl, thank you so much for having me at the moment this I really appreciate it. Now, why don't you tell us about Carl and when the breakup was and for what reason? Yeah, it's Carl's problem. Okay , okay. This is like a long story, so I'm gonna try and summarize it. So we dated for four years and we just broke up in January . It was his decision. I will say like I think that this happened like he basically like had a big like personality change. Like he I think got like low key like red pills on renon Oh no it's so bad, it's so bad. Like he is not the same person that like 'cause I would not be with someone for four years , you know if they were like that. . Okay, so this was like New Year's twenty twenty five. He was like, I want to do a bunch of self improvement. I want to like start eating right and like working out and like investing and investing. Oh well yeah. Those are like noise for that. Yes. The dog was they are. Those are all like entry level like red pill. You're right. I yeah. Do you know who he followed or who he listened to? Do you speak? Probably. I have no idea okay, so one of the big catalysts is he got like an iPad for Christmas catalyst. Oh my god No you don't realize he would be like, I'm gonna go do some reading and it would be him scrolling on Reddit on his iPad. I'm like, that's not reading. My God. To the library and let's get you a book. IPad boyfriend. You can hear him an iPad baby. It's like Coco Melon for Maine. No, literally. Reddit is Coco Melon for Maine . Oh , I have no idea what exactly it was, but he was just like, you know , big old screen gonna sit down and like scroll about like how to like invest my money. And like, I don't like, did he ever make any money or did he just yeah, I'm saying, I don't know, did he ever learn to make money? Still living in a house, you can't get I know that he like in his like first year, like he lost like maybe like nine hundred bucks, but then he made it back. So it's almost like net zero and he's like, okay, okay, like I know what to do now. I mean, there's nothing funnier than grinding investment forums to lose nine hundred dollars get it back . Being like, I just have to by the way . That's crazy what this do is like investment bros where like, I've got to fucking put my money in the right place. You can't do anything with nine hundred bucks. The idea. If you get a one percent margin, no, it doesn't do anything with nine hundred bucks at all . And you know, I would n't be like you're so patient , you know, about all of this . But basically like also around that time, like New Year's of twenty twenty five, I quit like an awful job 'cause it was making me super ill. So I was like, I can't do this anymore . Like literally like my jaw was cracking, like I couldn't turn my neck. It was super stressful. It was a bad work environment. Oh my god, I'm sorry . Yeah . Yeah, it was bad, it was bad. So I was unemployed for like four months trying to like find a job. You know, it's just tough out here. I'm in Los Angeles, so like you can guess. It's tough across the country, but, you know, Los Angeles , it's hard. So I was applying to multiple places and he saw me being unemployed and he was like, Hm , I think she's just not trying hard enough. And he basically like part of his like self improvement is he was like, I don't know if I see this person like on the same level as me because he started like emotionally distancingself from me . He would act really weird and for months I'd say, Hey, like something seems weird, what's going on? Can we have a conversation? And he would say, No, everything's fine. Okay, so what is his thing was not fine? Yeah, like for him to be like, yeah, what is his job? Like what's his fucking bug up? An investor. Yeah, right. Clearly not. Lost really or not. He's like , he's like a sound engineer, so he does like post production like sound engineering. So it's like he was working, I know. Regular he was working for like a studio that was like working on like some TV shows up in Burbank . And he was like, oh, we're selling a TV show to Disney Plus. I am like so doing well right now . He's doing the sound of the TV show that got sold to Disney plus. Maybe I'm gonna say I'm sorry on the fuck yeah so bad. He's a fucking engineer. Yeah, I'm like, what? There's like the ego, there's like the idea of like, oh , I'm doing well, like I'm making it in Los Angeles. Oh so anyways, we have like sorry. We were having some issues. We tried to like work it out. I was like, okay, you need to talk to me and you know anyways we kept trying, kept trying. And then this past year back in December , he was told that he was likely going to be let go from said jobs. Wow. Who could have two enables? Wow. mister nine hundred coming back to eight . I know Carl was not doing well . So he was like, I'm going to , you know, I'm looking at myself and when I see myself in the next year where I see myself in the next five years I just don't know like how I feel about our relationship. Like you know we've been kind of, you know , not super like emotionally close or very romantic in the past year and that's not fair to you. It was like a very amicable breakup The person you love that then like it's like obviously like it's hard for years you're with this person. They have a radical change in their life. It's not working out. So up to the present where we are now. So your relationship ended in January. That was and I'm just checking the clock like six months ago. Yeah, what were going on for these months in the So okay, so we had a very amicable brep. I said, you know, we're still best friends. We love where we live. We love like there's five of us in a house. So Tim and I sharing a m inaster bedroom and we have three other roommates , you know, love date with this dream . And we were like, you know, I don't want to have to force the other person to move out . We're still best friends. Like we just kind of maybe grew apart and we're different people now than when we started dating . Let's try to cohabitate and like be roommates . And it was going totally fine . And then he did get let go from his job in like February. Big fart noise for that. Keep going to reverse thank you . Thank you . It looks like that Disney plus show didn't go through now I couldn't have guessed that. Yeah. . So once he got let go from his job, he became fucking annoying because he was unemployed and didn't have anything to do . So we like we're planning this big house party for months and months and months and he put his whole p ussy into planning this party. Int like doing chores. And he got me down and said , You haven't been doing a good job at being a roommate, like you've really been slacking on doing your dishes and it's stressing my dog I have a full time job You're working hours a week . You're sitting around doing yard work . He would say I'm like out there mowing the grass, I'm weeding and nobody like says thank you. Nobody like acknowledges me for doing all this work. I'm like, What is he? Yes. You don't need to do this iPad. Yeah, you get to get an iPad gang. You'll take that lawnmower around the block and go make twists and then also he's on the iPad. By the way, start a little lawnmower business. He had nothing to do all day. Admission . So he's been at all the fuckin' worse. Like he's mixing it everyone else's problem . So brittle. You know, things were fine and then he just like yeah he doesn't know what to do with himself except to harass everybody else. And I will say like yes go ahead. Okay so I'm going to go ahead and say just to because this is a brutal situation you're in this. And you're also just to confirm you're sharing a bed with this person ? Yes . Yes. That's okay. So and I want to double I want to double down on two things you just said. One, you're like , everything was fine. Everything was not fine. No. You ended a relationship of four years after sharing a bed with this person. I should say like, I was spending to you, but no. It was not fine. You're red b boyilledf riend is sleeping like a foot from you. Oh my gosh. So I think also I say this often in the show, if your relationship ends and you want to be friends with your ex, I think that's great. I think you got to give it three months minimum. Yeah . You know, I think that's fair. Man, minimum, minimum and minimum, minimum. And make sure you exactly make sure you're actually friends because I think we're still hung up on the relationship as opposed to like, oh, what are we outside of this? So yeah, I think some of the best friends of it feels just like remnants of like relationships. It' not your best friend. What it was was your lover and your boyfriend and your partner and you're not that anymore. So it's like in order to build a strong friendship, you have to meet each other where you are, which is inherently hard to do if you've been dating. And you're staring at sharing a bed with you. You're grinding reddit. 'Cause you keep saying he's your best friend. Do you think he considers grinding reddit? It's so fucking crazy. What is this whole point. I at'm my w itch end at this point. Like I will also say like I just don't know how to have this conversation . Another big aspect of this there's like a time pressure because my friend group goes to San Diego Comicon every year and he has we all have tickets. He has a ticket and my friend group is saying I don't want to go with him. Don't want to share a hotel with him. Totally. He's so fucking annoying. Yeah . How do we say blues? You can't go on this trip with us actually and also here's one issues with these two different issues but, it's I u thinkltimate ly like thing you gotta remember is like you guys can control how you behave. You can't control what he does, right? Yeah. If he's going to go to Canada Comic Con and have his solo journey, that's fine, but you're not going to include in the group text, and you're not going to stay in hotel the with him. Yeah, that's like a totally other issue. But what you got to do, I think about its band is someone is he there? Is he there? Is that him? Put him on. No, no, no, no, I'm at work right now. No, what else is like, I think what you got to do is you got to just have a conversation with them where you say, Hey, look, this has been great . Give him some leeway, like evict him like he's a tenant. You know what I mean? Because like you got to be like, hey, this is not working out like, you know, and especially if you can get the other roommates on their side on your side to be like , I talked with all of them and they're they, you know, they've decided they want me to keep living here or whatever. But I think that this has worked out and I hope you get on your feet and whatever. And I think you can also sometimes a conversation like this, it might help to be like, you know, we had a really wonderful thing in the past. I think to maintain that and to be friends in the future, even if that doesn't happen. It's like good to add little kindling to the flame . I think you got to move out. It's time we both do our own things And give him be like, I think like, you know, give him a month, month and a half, whatever it is. I guess it's just in my mind it's like thirty days is like probably fair enough. I agree. thirty is fine. thirty five. I also think is there a switchero in the house? Like, does anyone else in the house get along with him and perhaps you can move to a different room and he is sharing? Like I don't know who else is in the house. He is the only boy in the house. The rest of us are Alvin. Yeah, then he has to go. Yeah, then that's right. So you can even make it easily every single day, we're like , why is there a man here? But you also might be able to lean into that but like, there might be a level of obviously like the niceties, but you could say like, oh hey, also like the fact that we aren't together, it's a house of girls. Like, since we aren't a couple, it is awkward to have a man here. It's like encroaching on our safety. Like you could always try to guilt him in that way. And I'm like, I mean, I'm just saying you could be like, it feels unsafe Yeah, it's kind of weird that you're here. Why do you even want to be here? Yeah, I think much of a girl. Do you want to be in a house full of dudes? Yeah. In fact, I'm here Red scrollers, red grinders. Miles, you're gonna scream when I say this, but like he also like goes on discord to like, you know, play games with his friends, like on his computer. We will be downstairs and the screams he lets out are so fucking loud, it sounds like he's right next to us. Like what do you mean by the house? All we say to each other is it's so nice and quiet. bad. Okay, so here's the he still that is brutal. And I think also like this guy , I think you're going to set him free. Yeah, I really do. He doesn't have a job right now, which by the way, fucking res pect to that. So many people don't have a job right now like it's a tough industry out there, right? It's a tough industry no matter what industry you're in. So for him though, you might set him free in that his relationship ended. He doesn't have a job. If you go, hey, it's time for you to go. It might set him free to be like, maybe I fucking go crash with my parents. Maybe I move cities, maybe I figure it up. His journey will go on from here and I think in some ways that's true. It feels like he's stuck in this old version and he's like, I'm mowing the lawn and that's not what he's mad about You know, it's like he's not mad about the lawn he's mad because he doesn't have things to do you know decades doesn't know what to do with himself . Again , it's a big self image. It's it bruises your ego. You know, it's to think of yourself as very successful and learned to not be . I totally understand why he's acting the way he is, which is also why it's so difficult because I still care about this person . It's heartbreaking to see how different he is because again, he was not like this before , but I have to stop thinking like, oh like, you know about like his potential or the way he used to be. Yeah , because this is how he's acting right now in a moment your problem for everyone. And again, the way to set him free is but like, you know what, that thing of like if you see high school friends, you act like you were in high school in some ways he needs to be able to if he's gonna grow and change, he needs to go out into the world and do his own thing with maybe new people , right? Like I think that you can it's not like it's not unkind what you're doing in any way . It is just what you need to do to move on and I would do this sooner rather than later. I think you got to do this within the week get the comfort going. Can I get a confirm to do this within the week? That's why I called because it needs to happen. It needs to be done. And you're going to feel bad. Oh my God, you're going to feel so good not only when he leaves, but once you've had the conversation, you know he's going . It's done. Imagine, you know how you feel when he's gone and it's quiet? Imagine the bed when you're all alone. Fantasizing. I'm sort of used to dreaming about like decorating my own bedroom. Oh my god again. It's great . Honestly , it's back. That might also be a way to like, you have this conversation and you just start subtly decorating. Yes. Just removing just start putting things, you know, just starting the box. Getting the vision that he is no longer in the space . You're moving out and we're going to slowly release because he's not is he paying rent ? Yes. Okay. He acts like he doesn't have savings but he does . He's fine. Like he's totally okay. This is going to be good for him too. Even though he's, you know, red pill iPad baby. This is really going to be it's going to be good for him too . So you got to have a conversation. I think you got to broach it this week and just say like start it by going like, hey, I just want to say like we've had a huge history together and I think we've gone through, you know, ups and downs and whatever. And I'm really grateful we have this time. I think it's time to move on to the next chap ter, which is me living here with my friends and you finding a new place to try. Also if you like you could also you could read Pil him and be like, you think it's like you want to have women taking care of you or just being a provider bro ken he does the thing. He wants it. . One of the other issues is like he is jealous that one of our other roommates, who is a lesbian by the way, , hanging out with her girlfriend more than she's hanging out with him . And he's like then acting really nasty towards the girlfriend when she comes over. So everybody out of there. He needs to get out here. He's a baby. Get him out, none of your friends like him. He's dead to me. Yeah , I want to say thank you so much for calling in. And I think this is you're going to feel so fucking good when you do this. I would actually what time is it now? What time do you get off work? I get off at six. Do it do it at fucking six hundred thirty. Do it today six o five. Do it at six o' five. Try at six e drive a hard bargain. Hey can we talk after work ? Like hey can we talk after work? Whatever fucking do it just you ' twot. do Don it in commentary because you know whatever but do it have it be done. It's may eighteenth. He could be out of there by fucking june fourteenth. That's my birthday. For the Sequoia gift to Sequ oia . Get him out of there. Yeah. Get him out of there. Also, Miles, I wanted to say we have met before . And you also know said lesbian roommates? No . What? So you might have to, I don't wanna like docks her . I can bleep it . And you guys have like tiki before and that is so fun. Oh my gosh, that's so funny , Carl. I wouldn't think I'm at Carl. But Ashley will absolutely bleep that and that's so funny. Wow, good to know, honestly. Good to know that. Yeah, she's also a big listener, so she's gonna listen to this episode and say I can,'t believe you called in about Carl. Yes, like it's a crazy situation. That is so, so funny. And wow, what a small world. Try LA . LA Burbank. Yes. The Burbank . Thank you so much. I super appreciate it. Also like I have these long shifts at work and perfect person gets me through like fifteen hour long shifts. Thank you so much for saving my life Thank you for listening. I appreciate you, hot girl two hundred and seven. And I hope you have an amazing day. Thank you so much. All right. I'm gonna go kick him out to die. Get him out . Get him out. All right, my hot girl. Bye bye . Unbelievable. Wow. Crazy. We've changed this listener's life. I love that truly like truly like that is a brutal to feel stuck like that and just be like, I don't know, like this is an old relationship I care. about this person. I don't know how to move on. Oh my gosh, she's gonna feel so good when it's done. Also it helps her be able to move 'cause like you have four months where you could be out here thoughtin', bottin, like doing all kinds. You could be getting back blown out and now Carl Carl's in the bed in the nap . Yeah Carl's just blocking. I'm like, Yeah, get him out of there. It's not a king size bed. It's probably a queen size bed. They're probably . They got five roommates damn . That's crazy. Yeah. They arm the arm, they touch it every night. Exactly. No, yes, see, you can't get your back blown out when Carl's putting his whole pussy into the lawn hair. He got his pussy and running. You're trying to get a shop bag will help. Damn, you know what I mean? It's hard . It's not working for anybody . Have you guys ever shared a bed with like not an ex, certainly not. Because a stranger? Well, yeah, it should have been with a stranger. Well, no, a stranger, I mean, but it next, like for a long, yeah, I feel like I've never I've never lived with a partner, so no. But I just can im'agtine like being like, let's share a bed. Just get on the couch. Get on the couch. Yeah, you get on the couch. The only person I lived with that was like a partner of mine, I mean, like for you, whatever couple weeks here and there were different partners, but yeah, was my wife and then we got married. Right. Right. I moved in with her after three months, which was crazy. Wow. Well, COVID because of COVID? No, no, no. No, because I was broke and she was broke and we were like, we love each other. Like, I guess I wasn't on the least or anything, but I just moved into her place with her But it was kind of like and I had some friends. I had moved to LA less than a year prior and then I met her and then we moved in it three months. And then friends called me like, are you okay? Like are you good? Nice. It was like, I get to theses seam crazy, but trust me , it's gonna work out. It did. Yeah , but we got to take another call here. Okay . If you're like me, you want your house to be a reflection of your cool brain . 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It was like what? Maybe it was like her grandma's panties that are passed down. Oh , it's your grandma's leather . By the way , do people normally pass down underwear? Oh, that doesn't happen in your family. On my diagnosis , I want you to have my own underwear. There's like a puff of snow A buff of smoke. They're on fire. Silly . Oh my god. Hello. You go for a person to go back. I'm here with Ryan and Sagoya . Hello . This is huge. I'm at a travel doctor right now, so I need like five minutes before I no problem whatsoever. I can I'm so sorry. No, no problem. Can I call you back in five minutes? Yes, that sounds perfect. Thank you so much. Okay, no problem. Call you back in a second, are you by Okay guys, we got five minutes. five minutes I love how does it happen? You know, it's funny 'cause I posted a thing on like Instagram and then people call in like the hour before we record. Right. And then I call them back . Mostly we get everyone picks up . Of course, yeah, mostly 'cause they just called. Yeah, we have if you were doing like old calls, it'd be harder . But sometimes so I usually will call back and oftentimes on the third ring they'll pick up they'll forget that they'll be like what is spam? And they're like, oh, I called calling me back. Whatever. Yeah, I mean, obviously if you called in, that's why you would know. I never answer. If I don't know the number ever, I answer every single time. I answer most times. I'm like, I'm always worried that because I'm always worried. I also like, I give my number out for like producing stuff for different YouTube videos. So I'm like, sure, if someone's just randomly calling me, like, I kind of love that and I'll be like, Hey, like whatever, like, oh, this is so and so it's almost always a work thing. I sometimes get spam calls but it,'s rare. Yeah, and I guess I guess spam calls get blocked now mostly. Mostly spam. And sometimes it's not spam. My accountant called and it said spam likely, but I just answered it. I don't know why. And I answered it really weird. Like I had the first spam . I was like hello Look at this gonna deter the spammer Is this Sequoia? This is your accountant. He says his name and I said, Oh my go,d I'm so sorry . Hello. Sorry . Mike sound like I was being weird. He buffs up laughing. He thought it's so funny. I've done it before too, where I've been like, hello, like , and then they're like, Hey, hey , how's it going? Miles and I'm like, who hey, who is this? Like who is this? And they're like, We have a call scheduled. You're actually five minutes late to it. And I'm like, definitely. Yeah. So sorry for sure. Sorry, I'll hop on the zoom or whatever. Right. 'Cause I think they're going to use AI to take my voice and then like it use to like hello use it to get into my social security number. I love the AI as well Stealing stealing my voice. I'm terrified by the way of Ike will call my own bank and think they're scamming. I promise you call my bank and I realize a scam number. No, but I'll call my bank and then be on the phone with another bank. Yeah, just let me just sent you a text just and I'll be like, I'm not giving you shit that . I promise you that do. That exact thing You called us. You think it's a fucking idiot? Do you confirm your phone your address? I'm not. Why would I have to do that? And they're like, Well, ma'am, what you're asking us to do when you called us, does require that you do that? No, I'm not doing anything. No, you already have that on record. You see my phone number? I'm like, no. You guys are making me feel like I'm may thisbe is m theistake. So naivety. I'm like, whatever. Look up whenever you got it. Sleep one's door. I've woken up so many times to feel like, Oh, damn, I didn't lock my door last night. Or I like going in a background like, Oh, I didn't shut my door. It's a guy. You knock off your door. You're gonna shut his door half a jar. Yeah, I think that 'cause I lock the bottom lock and I think I pull it and sometimes I don't pull it all the way. And I'll come back and I'm like, Oh, I guess I was open. Fog woke him up one day in the neighborhood but yeah walk out that is killed you in your sleep anyway a coyote it's Lil That is true. I sure did I said whoa was like I was like napping. I was napping on my couch and I guess I just got my door open. And they kept walked in and I was like, I just love my door. That happened. Is that crazy? A wild animal came near me my neighbor's cat, but yeah . That's fucked up. I was like, oh, this coyote's all up in my street, by the way. They're like everywhere, all over the place. I'm in like, you have to get into my building. Like, you have to go through my courtyard to get to my building or to my door. So I think that's what gives me a false sense of like by the time you get through the front door, I mean, it's not like you can walk straight up to my door, but like I'm like, you would have to know I'm here and you would have to have a reason. And my brain with stuff like that is that like if someone is out to get me, they're going to get me. And so I'm like what is what is a lock to do? If someone is determined to come into my apartment, a locked door is not going to stop them. Oh my god. So I lived . That's why you took them pistol classes. I did take pistol classes to the college . I took pistols and wine tasting on Wednesday nights in college. It was great. Which one was first? Could you imagine? Wine tasting in there Go to the range . That is so funny. No, it was the other way around. But yeah, our school had a gun range at the bottom of our like recent and we did. Is that Missouri? It's Missouri state. I went to UNC Tebloos. You didn't have one. Did you ask? That's a good question. Yeah, so we had one. Probably was. There was like ROTC and should they probably say that probably I had one. Yeah. We didn't have it at UC ruz, I'll tell you that. I promise you. No, yes, Santa Cruze. The banana slugs. No have that. Banana slugs. I forget who it must have been you or Tommy. One of you reposted like when you see a banana slug in New York City and I was like, does that fucking happen? After I posted that, I literally saw one. I saw somebody with the UCSC shirt walking around here. That's banana slugs is such a funny fuck. Yeah. It looks like a cart like that feels like a Nickelodeon mascot. Like real school went in pulp fiction and in there's some other show where they talk about the bananas slug all the time. It's like it's like a thing. It's like it's like mentioned because it's funny. Yeah. It's so silly. It's not real. All right, let's get this person to call back. Is this the travel doctor? Yeah, I know that we're gonna have a question nurse. That's what I thought about the witch. I'm gonna say that first question travel doctor . Maybe if she manages a sports team and she's with the travel doctor. Hello . Thank you so much for getting on the phone with us . Sequa red. Ryan, what's a big name for this person? Sheila , Sheila, okay, beautiful. Now Sheila, how's it going? And also what is the travel doctor? It's feeling so good . I've been doing a lot of I've been learning a lot about the different medications that I'm about to receive. Oh wait is like a travel doctor someone when you were on a trip you go to a like what is a trap I don't know what is okay so a travel doctor is someone that you have to consult before you go somewhere to make sure that you get all the vaccination . That's just to make sure you don't like die. Where are you going? Where are you going? Somewhere wherever you are. Yeah. I'm going to Peru. Peru . Yeah. Are you going to Cusco and Machu Picchu? I'm actually gonna be in the Amazon. I'm doing like an internship with like agroforestry and sustainability. We ' justre talking about deforestation moments That's so cool. That's like one of my big, that's one of my big interests. Are you also an advocate for the rainforest cafe? That's where my focus on deforestation is 'cause the rainforests are going away and we should, save the rainforest caf e. One of the things insane is that I will have gone to the actual rainforest before I have been to the rainforest cafe. It never happened to me. Never happened to you. You know what's really in my this is such an obvious thought that I'm about to have, but it is so fucked up that the company is called Amazon and they're fucking destroying the Amazon. That's why they're called Amazon. They're trying to like . And like she got it. Yeah, yeah, I know. It's crazy. I just think it's fucked up. But anyway, what's going on with your underwear and why is it at a firefighter's house? Oh yeah, Sheila, tell us. Yeah . Oh golly . Okay, so for political background on this firefighter . I met with him on hinge like a year and a half ago . And we've sort of had like an on and off relationship for the last year and a half. He's a forest firefighter specifically. And yeah, like, yeah. And so he's like, I was in like he's like, in and out. And we like dated for a little bit, not like officially, but we like we were going on dates consistently and then like things sort of fell apart and then like we didn't talk for a couple months and then he like called me after our separate seasons doing different like environmental sort of trail outside work . He actually the first time he called me was after I had to evacuate from a fire that he was fighting and I didn't even know. And we hadn't talked in like six months. Oh my god, this is like a Nicholas Marksman. It was crazy. That's beautiful. Yeah, that's right. This is your end game. This is your husband . You don't know what I mean. Yeah Okay, yeah, so what happened? Okay , so basically , we reconnected recently and he texted me and he was like, Are you still where you are? I got injured because he'd like left for the forest service and he's like, I got injured and back. And I was like, oh my gosh. So we hung out that night and it was great. And we hung out again, like a couple days later on this last Thursday. And so while we are like actively having sex Oh, I'm getting a call. And so he goes and he checks and he's like, oh my god, I'm being like called in because he's now like a volunteer firefighter. Oh my god. I'm getting called in to go fight a fire. actually I'm like, okay, I need to leave. So there's a fire here. You got to buy a first . Yay . Put me up first . Yep, okay, sorry. Yes. So he has to leave. Well, okay. So we had to leave . And so I have to like get all my stuff really quickly. I'm putting all my clothes. And he needs to like leave so I can I need to wait so his car can get out and stuff like that . And so I get in my car, I'm commando, I have like a sweater on and nothing underneath. Like it's chaotic. And so I leave and I realize the next day I left my underwear there. And so I'm like, shoot, but then I don't like texting back th becauseough we weren't we're not a super consistent texting terms . And so now I need to get it back and I texted him about it, but then he said he didn't know where it was, but I don't believe him because where is it? And so I need to know how it t believe So do you think he was lying about the fire you mentioned in your voice men, you thought he was lying about the fire or his back injury. Why do you think he's lying about those things? Okay , so this is the thing. I booked up the next day about the fire. And I was like, 'cause it's like there would have it's a small enough town that I'm in that they would have like published a story about a fire big enough that he would have had to go in. And there was no record of it. Like there was no one , there was no reporting on it. And so I'm wondering about that. When he opened the call moving pretty good for someone with a slipped back okay, because you said you said he just came from an injury and that's why I that's why he was back so he like I'm back in town. My question about when he got the call, did he was he in the room with you or did he leave the room? We were in the loft and he went downstairs and he was like, yeah. So I didn't hear exactly what he was saying. Did it sound like panicked or was like hushed tones? Why? Was he talking to a new? He was like . Yeah. He was like, Oh my God, I need to go. Like Sheila, I need to like Sheila baby. Let me hold your hand like oh my god No way Sheila . I went think he downstairs. Wait, sorry, sorry, this is the conspiracy theory cooking up. You think that a new woman came to the door? A different no. I think a new fire was calling. Oh my door. He's in a relationship. He might go in a relationship. Yeah, like the fire was on. Yeah. It is like oh. He's like, Oh, I'm in trouble. My wife is coming home. Wait, were you at his house or his home? Or your house? You were . I was at his house. He's like, Oh, I need you to skidaddle.. Yeah, he's lying He's lying. He's lying. He's lying. No way . And he doesn't know where the panties are 'cause he got rid of them. He had to put garbage. He had to garner. He threw them as a fire. I was gonna find them. He's lying. If you look hard enough, you probably find some panties . I was gonna say that frank but the way 'cause okay, there are only two options here . There was a fire or he has a wife. Right. That's it. There's nothing two option because I'm like, when would you stop what would be so emergent you needed to stop Midcoidus? Your wife did. Your wife or fuck fire. And then you're right and there is there is no other thing.. That's it That's it. Yeah, did he finish before he got this call? No, great question. Oh, I know. Oh, okay. It really does have to be a fire or light . Because he blueballed himself. Yes. And yeah. You don't do that unless you know that you're about to get in trouble or the world is about to burn down. Right And you're not in a regular this was last week. So you haven't talked to him at all. No, you did talk to him. Did he like mention anything about the fire? Where hostage? Yeah . Yeah, yeah. That's what I think. Okay, I texted him because I was like also I wanted to hang out again. So I was like, oh, well I left it so it's like, oh, it's a good chance for me to hang out with him again. And I texted him and he was like, oh, I'm like on a shift right now a thirty hour shift, but I also haven't seen your underwear. Like I haven't seen it anywhere. But it was like so abrupt and like did not seem like it wanted to lead to more conversation or me hanging out where like he didn't propose another time . So devil's advocate is having a terrible time because he doesn't want to take out me. She might be tired. Yeah, like in a devil's affliction if he is telling the truth in and there was fact a fire, he could just be like, Oh, I'm literally like fire right now. Yeah, does he seem like a guy who has a wife? Real? Yeah. Like do you get the impression that I think he has too many commitment issues to have a wife. Yeah, see, that's possible because also like you think that you could have a wife and be a traveling firefighter and have a sidebee. I mean, that actually Yeah, you probably could if you're not depressed. This is why things ended initially ? Like this is why we've been so on and off is because he leaves so much and he like keeps saying like oh I'm just it's too hard for me to like have something long term because it's like pursued the part too much and like that's why things end ed, which he didn't tell me until after he ghosted me the first time. But anyways, that's a whole other thing. Have you ever have you Googled him? Ooh , because I feel like every piece of information . You gotta just Google wife. Wait, no. His name was Google. What the trick is if you're trying to find out if someone's married. It doesn't. How could he have a wife? Maybe a girlfriend maybe in general. Look on Instagr am, look on yeah. Do you follow him on social media? A firefighter? Yeah. Yeah. Have you ever seen him fight? Social media. Have you seen him fight a fire? And you know what? No , not literally. Is he not a firef ower. I don't know. He works in crypto. Oh my gosh, maybe I don't even know him. Like who knows ? What if, okay, here's what you should do. Go to his socials. Okay , and look on the comment, this is some sle thingw. Look on the comments of the Socials from like six months ago. Or even recently just see if anyone's consistently commenting and then go to their profile and then see if it's like photos of him. Have you done this before? I just haven't done this before. I actually don't think I've done that specific before. You've done some stuff, but I know how to find someone online. I have Virgo. I'm Virgo. I have had to find someone not for romantic reasons, but I have to be like, okay, how do I do sleephing to find someone ? You know, whatever. Like yeah, I've done that before. Yeah. Okay, I'm looking at his I'm looking at his live oh my gosh. Looking at it all right. We are live on the scene the fire. Right. Or lack thereof or lack thereof. Okay , there's not very many comments on his name and they're mostly men . Okay, well , bi people exist. He's a god , but there's no high raised true. And like he does have like, yeah, and like I would firefighter. It would also make me like him more as a person if you firefighter' unsiversally attractive. It doesn't matter. He's a universal donor Yeah, huh? Look at his tag photos, are there anybody? No, I'm just saying tag photos, where I love whatever. I'm trying to see things I go to tag. And then Google the At because sometimes one time I found a man's Twitter account by Googling his app and it was just likes of porn. Like when likes were be lihkindes were public and it was just porn and I was like, wow . That is so nice. Let's look at that as well. See what comes up. Not that porn is desserty, but just to have your likes public and your likes. And it was just all porn. Oh budd, get a private account. it didn't deter me. I didn't say no. You were like, Okay, this is what he's into. I can be gonna work . I wasn't crazy in here. All right . It's normal, standard horornn. of h That's so funny. Interesting, yeah, she led that. I feel like he does seem like he might be lying. I don't know. To me, but maybe I'm just like also like I'm suspicious because it's maybe moving too well for someone 'cause he like apparently got like a bad back injury, bad enough to quit like have to resign from the official fire service. That's weirder to me. So how is he moving like he is has no visible like and is not complaining about his back. Like you've been hanging out. Like I don't understand I'm suspicious . He's been yeah . And when was the last time you talked to him? I texted him like last night and nothing or that was my asking for it. And that was the thirty hour shift. Okay. Asking for it as in the underwear, not the saben. Well, maybe
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