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The Dark, Human Vapor, and X-Men ‘97. With guest Esther Smith

Jul 6, 20261h 36m
Summary

In this episode of Pilot TV, the hosts dive into a eclectic mix of television and entertainment. The discussion kicks off with a look at the Japanese supernatural series Human Vapor, followed by a trip to Scotland for the antics in The Dark. The team also reconsiders their stance on animation by reviewing the second season of X-Men '97. Guest Esther Smith joins the conversation to share insights on the fifth season of the series Trying. Beyond the reviews, the hosts engage in a lively debate over their upcoming mid-year top-ten lists, teasing a new, blind-voting format intended to keep their choices honest and prevent tactical maneuvering. The episode also touches on the challenges of streaming service subscriptions, a discussion of Russell Tovey’s performance in the play The Guilty, and a nostalgic look back at the 25th anniversary of The Office. Throughout the episode, the hosts maintain their signature rapport, blending serious TV analysis with personal anecdotes about their viewing habits, gaming sessions, and even their aspirations for location-based travel inspired by their favorite shows.

Updated Jul 7, 2026

About This Episode

Esther Smith is our guest on this week’s show, talking all things Trying Season 5 (38:15-48:52). Plus we pick through the wreckage of the TV schedules this week to try and find shows that haven’t been consumed by the world cup, only to stumble across a Scottish crime drama in The Dark on ITV (58:20), a remake of Japanese supernatural story Human Vapor on Netflix (1:11:04), and the long-awaited second season of X-Men ‘97 on Disney+ (1:22:04). All that, and we even find the time to plan our perfect TV-themed getaways as well.

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