The Truth About Otto and Final Outcomes

You know that old saying? You can't have your cake and eat it too That exact phrase help catch the unibomber In his anonymous manifesto, he flipped it You can't eat your cake and have it too. When his brother and sister in law read that, they thought, wait a minute We've heard that somewhere and everything Unravel. The original sixteenth century version of the idiom was closer to the Unibombers. Would ye both eat your cake and have your cake The idea being You can't have. what you've already consumed You can't have it both ways. Well, At least that's what the proverb says in today's truly bizarre story inside one very particular house One woman does her best to have it both ways. Husband The lover The money And the alibi I'm Harvey K An This is killer stories. I'm going to put you in the shoes of a real person. It's the nineteen twenties, jazz is in the air. Motion pictures are new and the entertainment industry is booming. And you've got yourself a beautiful home in the center of it all, Los Angeles, California. Lots of people have been moving to the city recently, but you're not lots of people. You have money. You live in the Hollywood Hills overlooking Sunset Boulevard, where the homes are big and airy and the grass actually grows green. There's no riff raff, no trouble, and every night as the street lights flicker on, you can actually hear yourself think because there's no TV, or smartphones or internet, maybe somewhere radio plays, but mostly It's just you The local gossip and your idle thoughts And then One summer night, you hear an argument comes from outside It sounds like your neighbors, Fred and Dolly Ostrich. just coming home from an evening out, but you can't hear what they're fighting about and their voices fade away as they step inside their home. So you don't think anything more of it until a few minutes later, You he Gunshot Three of them. You run to the window to check what's happening and see that two lights are on next door, one on the porch and one in the living room Tiny gap in the living room curtain, you can make out a pair of legs sprawled on the floor After five minutes go by, a third light turns on in the upstairs bedroom and a shadow moves across the window and you hear a woman's scream Fred. Oh, Fred which is quickly followed by a pounding sound, some type of banging and the porch light going off. So obviously, you call the police When they arrive, you go with them over to Dolly and Fred's. Why? I don't know, it's nineteen twenty two. There were gunshots, someone might be seriously hurt, and the shooter might still be in the house. But yeah. For some reason the LEPD is like, Calm with. So yeah She go And when you walk into the home, it immediately sinks in how serious the situation is there Ground in the living room Is Fred dead He's been shot Three times and the bullet casings. There's no murder weapon inside. And there's also no dolly You and the police checked the upstairs bedroom because remember, you saw someone in there earlier, but now the room is empty, or it looks that way. You actually find out that Dolly is trapped inside the closet which is locked from the outside. and when the police finally manage to open the door, she's barely conscious She eventually wakes up and tells everyone what she remembers. It all happened really fast. She says she and Fred came home and out of nowhere she felt someone grab her and before she could even process, they threw her in the closet and locked the door. She heard gunshots and screamed She must have passed out That night, both you and the police learn that there's something missing from Dolly's house Very expensive diamond watch which seems to point to Pbery gone wrong. The burglar broke in while Dolly and Fred were out, and when they heard the couple come home, they threw Dolly in the closet and shot Fred It's the explanation that makes the most sense to you, to everyone But still Police have to keep an open mind and not everything about the night like that argument, the one you overheard between Dolly and Fred earlier. Even though you're pretty confident in that memory, Dolly tells the police It wasn't a fight that everything was totally normal between her and Fred. Which is a little strange. But Dolly couldn't have shot Fred. I mean, she didn't put herself in the closet She was locked inside. The key was outside the door in the keyhole Someone put her there. Police found a fingerprint on the handle that didn't belong to Dolly or Fred That's the other strange part If someone was there Where did they go sure the burglar could have snug out the back or something, but you were staring at the house and you never saw anyone leave. Neither did any of the other neighbors. Plus, police searched the entire place. They didn't find anyone but Dolly home Poor, shaken, scared dolly A Unfortunately, the police don't catch whoever murdered Fred And eventually Dolly sells the house. And I mean, can you blame her wantants to live with those memories The good news for Dolly is money isn't an issue Fred left her in estate worth over two hundred thirty thousand dollars. The equivalent of about four and a half million dollars in twenty twenty six. So you know, she'll be fine. Months pass and you kind of forget about Dolly. Last you heard, she moved into an expensive apartment and started seeing other men She managed to move on from the worst night of her life And then one day, you open up the newspaper and there she is again. Dolly Turns out, she's in jail now Police are holding her under suspicion of murder. All because a new witness came forward with a story about Dolly The witness says, just a few days after Fred's death, she asked him for his help Getting rid of a gun. Asking someone to get rid of a gun a few days after your husband is shot to death is suspicious behavior Dary Ostrich She didn't just ask one person to get rid of a gun, she asked two And they both agreed One was a movie producer. The other was a neighbor She gave them each a different semi automatic pistol. and then ask them to dispose of it The movie producer threw his in the Labrea tarpits The neighbor buried his in the backyard Two men didn't know about each other. thought they were independently helping out Dolly Why agree to do something so shady? Well, according to both men, they couldn't imagine Dolly having a hand in Fred's death So, when she says she was afraid of looking guilty if the police found the guns, they agreed to help her That's the story they tell police. If it sounds like there could be more context, that's because there is. Dolly was in a relationship with at least one of the men The movie producer Their affair either started during her marriage or very shortly after Fred's death But either way, disposing of the gun was more than just a favor for a friend It was a favor for someone he was either already sleeping with or someone he wanted to. Why the sudden change of heart? Well, The guy only came forward after Dolly ended their relationship His testimony led to her arrest, and after that news made headlines Dolly's neighbor also spilled the beans about the gun he helped Barry So months after Fred's death, Dolly goes from being this poor, grieving widow being suspected of murdering her husband, Cold blood And the evidence doesnn't look good for Dolly Police track down both guns. they both match the caliber of the bullet casings found at the crime scene Meaning either could be the murder weapon, but It's impossible for officials to be one hundred percent certain because they're both too rusted. They spend too much time outside. And as strange as it is that Dolly wanted to dispose of two guns, there's still room for reasonable doubt Plenty of people have pistols It's still possible Dolly could be telling the truth. that she really is innocent. She was just so afraid of looking guilty. She acted a little Irrationally And I sayil that because police look for evidence to prove Dolly's guilt They can think of plenty of reasons why Dolly might have wanted Fred dead his wealth being The most obvious, but at the end of the day, they can't crack the mystery of the closet The way detectives see it, the only way Dolly had a hand in Fred's death is if she knew his killer And if whoever it was helped her stage the crime scene B. Well, during their investigation, detectives hear some vague rumors of a possible affair between Dolly and some other man And they're not talking about the film producer This man could be a suspect, but They never actually find that person someomeone they can place inside the house that night. So newspapers start calling this hypothetical mystery man Doolly's Phantom look likeike she's sleeping with a ghost. Dolly tells police they can't find her phantom lover because he doesn't exist barking up the wrong tree, it really was just a burglary. That's the plain and simple truth and without evidence to prove otherwise, Dolly's story eventually wins out It becomes the official story But before police release Dolly from jail, she receives a very important visit It's from a man named Herman Shapiro He's not just Dolly's visitor. Oh no He's her living boyfriend and her estate lawyer. Dolly started seeing Herman right around the time she ended things with the movie producer You know, the one who got mad and went to the police about the gun she gave him to dump By then, Herman and Dolly had already moved in together into the fancy new apartment she bought with Fred's money As her lawyer, Herman handled everything after Fred's death as her boyfriend, He believed every word of her grieving widow story Which is why he hasn't told police about everything he knows This episode is brought to you by Chime. 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Even when things are about to get a whole lot stranger and when I say a lot stranger, I mean beyond Bizarre During his visit with Dolly in jail, Dolly confesses something to Herman And no, it's not a murder confession, but it does feel straight out of a horror film. She's like, You know the apartment we've been living in We have a roommate you don't know about. He's hiding somewhere secret and Infinitely hungry What did I tell you? So Yes, it's weird, right? But trust me, it gets even weirder because then Dolly gives Herman instructions on what he needs to do next. She says he should go home Place a plate of food in a special spot in the house and then scratch the wall like a cat And if he does that Someone will appear. What Okay, so Go home, grab a special plate of food and put it in a special place and scratch on the wall like a cat and someone will appear. Now if someone gave me those instructions, Dolly and I would be having a serious conversation about her mental health and the future of our relationship. There's certainly no way I'm scratching that wall alone. That's where Herman and I don't see eye to eye. See we're different people, Hermann and I. because he doesn't tell anyone Dolly's instruct and he doesn't run for the hills either. He listens to her He goes back to their apartment alone. does what she asked Puts the food out He scratches the wall. and a person actually full grown man comes out crawling out of a secret hiding spot in the attic and he's like, Hei. My name is Walter I'm Dolly Sexly I've been living in the attic for the past ten years Okay When we last left off, we had just met Dolly's cake, a man who says his name is Walter Walter crawls out of the attic and tells her and Dolly's current boyfriend that he's Dolly's sex slave and has been for a long time. which is quite the first impression, I would say, but it's also a little Exaggerated Walter doesn't spill his whole life story at once, it comes out over time. Walter's really excited to see Herman because he hasn't seen another man in a long time. So he's pretty chatty And over time, Walter lets basically every sortid detail of his incredibly strange life pour out like a faucet Except He never tells Hermann his real name whichich is actually auto Otto Sanhuber. And he plays a pivotal role in this whole mess But this story starts way earlier before Dolly's arrest, before Fred's murder, before they even moved to Los Angeles Nine years earlier in nineteen thirteen, Dolly and Fred lived in Milwaukee, Wisconsin Fred owned a factory that made aprons. Fred was very serious and liked to drink Dolly was very unerious, very attractive to have sex. Lots of sex And this isn't me saying this. This comes from the newspapers. They called her things like a naughty vam And the LA Times wrote that Dolly's eyes and her appetites would bring a long line of men into her life We already talked about two of them, and they both entered Dolly's life before Fred's body was even cold. And I have some suspicions about the neighbor who buried the gun. But back in nineteen thirteen, Dolly didn't have that reputation yet She was the thirty three year old immigrant wife of a successful businessman Ato was seventeen years old He worked in Fred's factory as a sewing machine repairman And at some point, Dolly took a liking to Otto. So She hatched a plan She told Fred her personal sewing machine was broken knowing he'd send Auto to fix it Now, imagine being auto You're young and naive, you've got teenage hormones. Your very stern and very serious boss sends you on a job that means going to his house Be in his personal space. and when you open the door, his wife greets you. J just stockings A silk robe s it And she's Alone It's the classic Cougar seduucce boy movie scene excepts It's real life. Big surprise, Otto doesn't practice restraint that day. or in the days that follow They begin a hot and heavy affair and they're not very careful So after a while, Dolly's neighbors start to notice a young man always coming and going She lies and tells him that she has a Magabon half brother. That way if they see him again, they won't ask questions. But to really cover her tracks, she convinces Otto to quit his job cut off contact with everyone else in his life and move into her He lives in Dolly's attic for years From that day on, Otto was part of Dolly's life and Fred's, whether Fred knew it or not Whenever the couple moved, Otto moved too. Milwaukee, then Stain. Paul, then Los Angeles. In each house, Dolly picked the place with the best hiding spot in the attic Once, when Dolly and Fred are living in Stain. Paul, Minnesota, Fred apparently catches Oto He walks into his house and sees the teenage employee who had ghosted him a while back at his home in a different state puts the pieces together and warns Otto to never see Dolly again That doesn't happen. Otto keeps living in the attic right over Dolly and Fred's bedroom He comes out only when Dolly signals it's safe They have lots of sex, and Otto helps maintain the house. Other than that, he takes up a hobby Making Bathtub Gin, eats whatever Dolly feeds him and earns whatever cash she can spare He spends his nights reading mystery books by candlelight Whatever Dolly picks up for him from the library, and he dreams of becoming a pulp fiction writer He writes all kinds of stories, mostly about wild adventures. kind he's not having locked away in an attic But he apparently sells a few. I don't know how he got an agent, but he does. He sells a few which he publishes under a pen name, and he's not just living in this attic out in the open. Most of the time, he's in a secret compartment with just a cot and a desk. so Fred really has no idea He doesn't understand why things sometimes disappear from the house or what's causing that strange noise and shadows that come out at night Fred got his answer On august twenty second nineteen twenty two. Otta was twenty seven years old by that point and still living in the attic seeee her Dolly and Fred come home from their evening out. They were fighting. And according to Auto, it was bad enough that he thought Dolly was in danger that Fred was going to seriously hurt her, so he came down from his hiding spot, still in his pajamas, Otto claims that when Fred saw him, he attacked him That's the only reason She shot Fred It was self defense He then walked Dollie in the closet to make it seem like a burglary crawled back into the attic and waited for the heat to die down Obviously, he moved with Dolly into the attic of her apartment after she sold the house Dolly told Herman to bring him food because she was worried about Otto's health And now, here they are all these years later Dolly's sex slave talking to Dolly's new boyfriend about the murder of Dolly's husband Like I said, Otto doesn't tell Herman everything right away takes time time when presumably, Hermann, Dolly, and Otto are all living under the same roof Because Dolly gets cleared and released from jail in nineteen twenty three No charges are ever brought against her And Otto apparently doesn't leave the apartment until nineteen twenty five So I have to assume they're all roommates at some point. They're living in a bizarre version of that show Th's company, except it's called the Odrppo and one of them lives in the attic I'd watch that. What's even more bizarre is that after Herman learns the whole truth about everything doesn't go to the police. doesn't leave Dolly either I don't know what she's doing to these men to make them so cooperative, but when Herman finally finds out about the murder J kicks Otto out of the apartment And he continues dating Dolly So For years, the truth of what really happened that night of Fred's murder stays hidden Thinks might have stayed that way if it weren't for Dolly's wandering eyes After Dolly breaks things off with Herman in nineteen thirty, she's faced with the wrath of another scorned lover Herman goes to the police and spills the beans about everything. And even though Herman uses the name Walter, police are able to track Otto down For a man who managed to stay hidden for years, he's surprisingly easy to find. He's working as a janitor in an apartment complex in LA He realizes there's no more hiding So tells them aboutout Fred's death about his love for Dolly and how she had him under a spell He also makes some gross comments about how he grew to love Dolly As a boy loves his mother H. But in the end, he says it's a huge relief finally tell the truth, especially about Fred's death He says he's been haunted by the memories of that night The only thing he says he's worried about now is haaving to explain things to his new wife which is the understatement of the century. I mean, his decade long kinky sex affair is about to be splashed all over the news next to nicknames likettic Lover and Batman. But yeah, I suppose he gets to taste a kind of freedom he never had before Putter goes to trial and is convicted of second degree manslaughter. He doesn't spend a single day in jail Because it's been eight years The Statute of Limitations has run up And we don't know what happens to Attox, whether he works things out with his wife or not. understandably See drops off the face of the earth. In the end, the LAPD never manages to put Dolly behind bars, not for murder, Not for conspiracy, not for keeping a grown man as her personal atticte Let's talk about Pay Roni's disease, or PD 's not widely talked about. And some men may feel reluctant to bring it up But it's more common than you'd think PD can happen when scar tissue builds up under the skin of the penis, causing a curve or a bump during an erection that for some men, may lead to pain during intimacy and impact mental health A trusted urology specialist can help diagnose PD and walk you through your options, including non surgical treatment Visit talkaboutpD. com Evening B' remorse Buy a new car I be Let's get started. Sorry, I think there's been a mistake. 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