Meeting Jared and Relationship Beginnings

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Authorised and regulated by the Financial Conduct Authority. See website for details. Danny Dyer. Are you ready for us to reveal the results of your glycan age biological age test? Yes. You are 29, your biological age is . Hello and welcome to What's My Age again, the podcast where we take our guests' blood. And we I've never said it's so scary, but that's what we do. I don't know why you give it to us. Well, it's because we're going to reveal what's going on beneath their camera-ready complexions. Today I'm joined by the undisputed queen of reality TV, all hill, Danny Dyer. She won the nation's hearts on Love Island with her down-to-earth attitude and east end charm. She's since risen to stardom, making documentaries, podcasts, acting debuts, and she's had multiple children. I can relate to that. In twenty twenty one, she caught the eye of West Ham hunk. Jared Bowen. Bowen? Bowen. Bowen. I don't watch football. Bowen. I've seen him on your Instagram. Officially tying the knot with him last year, making them top of the table in my favorite celebrity couples league. Danny's been open about the highs and lows of fame, anxiety, relationships, and motherhood, yet she manages to stay so humble, funny, and refreshingly honest through it all, but has her anxiety accelerated her aging? Is being a wag at the cost of her wellness. We will consult our resident scientist and longevity legend, Dr. Nicola Conland, later, to reveal if Danny's perfect perfect skin, which we were just casually mentioning, means that she's also young on the inside. For now, please welcome to the What's My Age Again Villa Danny Dyer. Hello. Hello, that was a lot that was lovely. Ups and downs. That was perfect. Thank you. Do you know when someone can't pronounce a word, they say that you should be patient with them and it's cute because it means they've only seen it written down. Yeah. And that's me with your husband. Yeah, but he's a lot of people um call him like Jared as well. Jared. Jared. Jarrard. Oh Jared. It's Jared. Yeah. Is Jared like an American Canadian name? I don't know where he is. I've not really met many Jared, so I'm not gonna lie. I'd know like when I met Jared, I was like, that's such an unusual name. I think there's a ch someone called Jared on a C B B's Okay show actually. There's a kid called Jared. Well probably after him. How long has he been a famous footballer for? I mean he's been playing football since he was obviously young, but I'd say maybe more known at 17, I would say. Play for Hole. Oh well then kids on CBBs could be named after him. I don't know. I don't know. It is an American name. It's random, isn't it? But I don't know anything about sports and I only knew some of the players because they had famous wives. I'd be like Cheryl, the guy who cheated on Cheryl Cole and like um, who else is Colleen Rooney? Colleen Rooney's husband. We love Colleen. But I never knew who he was. And now Jared, for me, has to join that legacy of like Danny Dyer's husband. He's a Neppo husband. Oh my god, there we go. I think you're more famous than he is. Oh my god, I don't know. Are you? No I don't think I don't really ever feel like famous. I know that sounds really silly, but I think 'cause we just live very normal liv es. That we're just very, very normal. And fame he doesn't like fame. I think if he could just play football and just walk down the street, he would prefer that I'd say. He's very shy. I know what you mean because you don't seem to be someone who's ever really courted fame. Even though you went on Love Island and you know what comes from that, but you do seem like you have a really solid family life, and then you're such a young mom of so many that that is super humbling. You never feel famous. No, I just don't. When you're a mum. Have a different job. That's how I look at it, you know. All my friends are just have normal jobs and I love all that, you know. You can come home from the NTAs and be like wiping someone's bum. Yeah. Then you're like not so famous am I? Yeah, I was literally doing that the other day um just before I I went to the the sky up next summer on potty training. And I mean you are brilliant at the potty training. She had just shit , so I literally was just washing my hands in a little pretty dress just before I'd left. That was great, yeah. Did you always want to be a young mum of many? Do you know what? I didn't I think looking back now, I was like twenty-four, which I think is really young when I look back at it. Like I wish now maybe I would have started at 28. Yeah. Yeah, I do think now, because like your early 20s are like your best years, I would say. So yeah, I did start young, but a lot of my best friends were having babies at that age. So I don't know if we just all thought, oh sod it, didn't really, you know, do my research and got pregnant. Do my research. Do my research of like anything. Well, you're 29 now. Yeah. And I think that it is quite exciting to be a 24-year-old mom. I became a mom for the first time at the same age. Yes. And I'm from a small town in Canada, so a lot of my girlfriends were doing the same. Yeah. And you really could get wrapped up in the baby showers and all the fancy I had the chaviest equipment for my first baby. Yeah. Like pink, everything. And now I'm a mom again at 42. And it's not the same. No, it's not. It's not the same experience. It is cute to do it young. Yeah, no, I am because I've we've all my friends we've done it together and our children are all now being brought up together. Whereas I've got other friends that are just sort of starting now and they're like thirty. So yeah, it's mad how you just all do it at your own And what I love about it is if you draw a line under it, which I think a lot of people do after twins, but who knows if you'll have more . Um, then you have this wonderful young romantic life to live with your husband when you have grown children and you can be here and there and you won't be tied down like I'm like when you're 42 I can't do the math how old is Santi five yeah and so when you're 42 that is 18 he',ll be 18. Yeah. And you have that relationship with your dad. Yeah, that's what I mean. Like my mum and dad had me at like 19. Yeah. So that was young, you know, but they're like my real good friends now. And I know there's that difference. Some people think you should n't be too friendly with your parents. They're your mum and dad. But I have both been brought up with my mum and dad as like real good friends. Well, and you were an example of how that worked out well. And I'm sure there are lots of examples where it doesn't work out well. Yeah. But I remember, and I know you probably don't want to be defined by Love Island because you've done so much since, but when we first got to know you on a national scale, I remember there was worry and your dad communicated like, oh my gosh . And even I thought, oh, nobody really comes out of Love Island that well . But you were the first one to be completely neutral and wise and quelling fights and not shagging on camera and you really represented yourself and your family so well on that show. No, he was they was my mum was a bit more like she hadn't watched it, so she was more like, Go on go, and have a great summer, you know what I mean? Whereas my dad was very like absol ut he just didn't he just didn't speak to me until I went in there. They booked Florida. They weren't even there. When obviously you could have your family come in. Yeah um I had like my nan and granddad come in because I was like in Florida. It was so funny. He does like I don't want to see girls shagging out in the open so I'm gonna go to Florida where that's oh no. That's all that happens is every time you kiss that the cameras would go, uh so you're like, Yeah, definitely no, no business happening in here. What is it about your upbringing as a mum now that you think led to this relationship where you're friends with your parents, but you're also very respectful and well-rounded. Like what did they do right? Well I think where my mum and dad were so young, they was figuring it out. Um and my dad is still like a child at heart now. You know, he's very he's he's so impulsive, you know, but he's just such a he's got such a lovely, genuine, kind heart, and I think I'm very similar to my dad in that sense. Um I'm very soft, I'm very emotional. My mum's a little bit more like tougher on the outside. But I don't know what built that. I think they always just wanted me to tell them absolutely everything. Sometimes I would, and then it would shoot me in the foot a little bit. But yeah, I've just we had such an openness, you know, always wanting to make sure that we were sitting there around the dinner table together. I mean my mum and dad were a little bit off and on as I was growing up in their relationship. I mean they'd been together since they was fourteen, so it'd be as expected. But I don't know what made us like that. I don't know how we carved this relationship where we are just really friendly. Do you remember how they used to punish you? Like if you were naughty, what was the consequence? That's see, they were so strict with me. I used to have to take my phone off me every night at nine o'clock till which oh my god till I was like going into college. Yeah they'd take my phone off and then I used to take like try and sneak my sim out of the phone and put it in like an old phone and they'd still catch me. Like they'd be really strict with me on like revising because I was terrible at maths. It just used to go in one ear out of the other and I still failed. Um yeah, so they was very I had to be first home all the time. Um used to have to ring up my friends and say to them, can I stay at your house tonight? And then I never was allowed to stay out. They was really strict, that's the thing. Whereas my sister now, she's there was so much they're not well you learn from you first. But also you're old, like they're old now, like this is what I'm talking about. Like I was just wanted to just drink over the field to my friends at 15. I'm like goodness gracious, but that's all I wanted to do. Do you think you became conscientious then just because of an innate personality that you have? Maybe I. just think Because some kids rebel against strict parents. Yeah, I just s I did a little don't get me wrong, I did sometimes lie to them quite a lot. Okay. But I'd always get caught out. Do you know what I mean? I was always caught out and then I was grounded for weeks on end. So I think it was just I'd choose it wisely. I would sometimes want to throw a house party. And I remember my f we had there was CCTV outside of our door. And I said to my friends, right, what you're gonna what we're gonna do is it's gonna go from CCTV and then we're gonna completely blackout the CCTV, so I want you to put your blazer over it. Gosh. My brain didn't think. Obviously, you could just see my friend putting the blazer over the CCTV, like not that it's gonna go from one to blackout. Um so yeah, I would just get in trouble. So I would just choose it wisely on when I was gonna play up a little bit. Oh my gosh. I weren't doing any harm, I just wanted to have my friends around. Yeah. We was all in safe places, you know, I would never, you know, not answer my phone or they never knew where I was but I just wanted to you know drink Glenn's and have a bit of fun I'm glad I wanted to do that. And I almost I feel sorry for your generation because just that bit older, we could do whatever. Our phones did not we didn't. Love that. And then so no one knew our location. When we did, I didn't have a phone. When my daughter was born, I didn't have a phone. Yeah. People did. I was especially poor, but I didn't have a phone. You couldn't check up on us and now, especially with a famous dad. Yeah, I think now it's harder, isn't it? Because people it's the phones, it's the videoing, it's the pictures. We just had a great night and we I was saying to my friends the other day we'd take pictures and just o upload the whole album on Facebook there was no filter was there and I think now it's very very filtered like my sister's nineteen and they've not been able to do half the stuff I've done just 'cause they're so scared all the time. People are always wanting to like cancel you in a sense, aren't they? So does that make you feel old, having really young siblings and being from a different a different time, really. Yeah 'cause my brother's eleven. Oh yeah. Yeah, so yeah, there is such a massive age gap. And I look at my sister now and I'm like, oh my god, you've got like your best years ahead of you. But yeah, when I look at my brother, he's no, I'm not he's gonna be 13 this year. I've completely got his age wrong. Yeah, he's gonna be 13. He's like, I can't believe you're my sister. Like he can't get his head round that I'm so much older than him. But no, it is the best having like younger siblings. So you're 29, you've got three small kids, you have two little siblings. Yes. How old do you feel? It's really hard for me to say what age I feel right. Because say I have like loads of 50-year-old women around me. See like my nanny's like seventy odd and you know, I can go on hour walks with my nan. So I just think it depends on the person. For me, I don't know how old I definitely feel my age, but then it frightens me that I could be older, you know. Mentally, I'm still about 18. Yeah. Because when I'm like drop doing the school runs, I'm so petrified of upsetting the teacher or you can't have a late mark and I'm just get so scared if we've got parents evening, I'm bringing up my mum. So like mentally I'm still not 29, I don't feel, but I don't know how I am everywhere else. I'd say probably all the women in your family are probably similar to you. You guys are close, you have a lot of youthful energy. Yeah. Your nan would probably say she feels eighteen many days. Yeah. Well she's like seventy three, she loves a Bicardi, you know, she, you know, she you can't get my nan home. If you're at a party, you're like, come on, Carol, we gotta get home now. Like you she's like staying out two or three in the morning, like loves it. I love that. I do think I'm robbing my kids of that nice close-knit community. Because where do you all live? You live in East London or Essex? So we live in Essex. Yeah. Um we don't have Jared's family because they live like um it's a place called Lempster, an hour from Wales. That's what I tell everyone, because no one knows where it is. Um so I have my family, like my mum and my dad, and they're like seven minutes from my house. And I love that. It was once twenty five minutes and it felt too long. And families don't do that anymore. And regardless of how your biological age comes back, I'm sure just having you near and the kids near is keeping your nana young and is keeping everyone in this lovely bubble. Yeah. Were you with her a lot when you were young? Oh yeah. Yeah, because my mum was working. Mm-hmm So my nan would pick me up from school and she used to have her next door neighbour Sue who I look is like my nan to me as well. So my she'd look after me when I was really little because I didn't want to go to nursery, so she'd have me and then my nan would rotate because my nan was a school dinner lady. So yeah, my nan would pick me up every day, um and we'd either get a hot dog or she'd pick me up with a dairy milk caramel. I'd always remember that certain chocolate. And then I'd sit with her, watch deal or no deal, have dinner until my mum was back from work. So yeah, my nanny's like a mother to me in a sense. That is so much better than nursery. I know you have to send your kids to nursery sometimes, but if you have that village. I just didn't like it. I used to cry and Sue used to ring up my mum and go, She really don't don't want to go nursery. I used to want to be with Sue and Sue loved Gareth Gates. Yeah. So I used to sing like I don't know the songs he sings now, but I used to just sing and dance with Sue. I loved being with her. It's so random, isn't it? Gareth Gates. No, it's not random at all. She likes adores him. I think she could get him now. I used to fancy famous boy band people. You won't remember New Kids on the Block, but that was like our take that. And I would strategic ally fan fancy the one I thought I had the best chance of getting. I wouldn't fancy the hottest one. I'd be like, I think I could pick him off. I was like a lion with like an injured zebra. And he was called Joey McIntyre. And I genuinely believe I could get him now. Do you re Yeah yeah because that's even like like one direction. Yeah. Like I used to be like obsessed with them and now it feels weird to say like who the ones I used to f I used to fancy I would be like Zayn Malik. Like I used to listen, and then I'm like, oh that's really weird. I don't feel like I could say that now. You could get him. You got Jared. We got Jared, there we go. But I yeah, I I loved a boy band when I was younger. I know. And I believe in Sue getting with Gareth Gates. We should get a little date or so., yeah She was great. Do you have memories of your parents being together and not together and together and not together? A little bit. I remember they was always very rocky, but then my dad was always around on the weekend. So now I know what they were up to. Um but I knew that they loved each other you know and my dad used to pick me up in like uh he used to have them big cars of like the sliding doors and then like he he he was so good. Considering they weren't together, he was so present , you know, always seeing me, always buying me the biggest, fanciest dressing up boxes or anything that I wanted. Um but yeah, I feel like it was always a blur because they wasn't together but, they kind of was. Yeah. You know, like they was always doing it behind like my nan's back because my nan absolutely despised him at the time, obviously, because they was very up and down. And then eventually, because we used to go to my nan's every Sunday for like a ro ast dinner and then eventually she'd like plate him up a roast dinner 'cause she knew that But to take away. She didn't want to see him, but my mum would take it away. He's too charming. You have to give Danny Dyer Senior a roast dinner. She does a good roast. And then what age were you when they were properly back together? So I can't remember my age, the ages roughly. Um because again it was so off and on, off and on. But I would say probably by the time I was like six . See they might might as well have just been together the whole time because he I think a lot of people grow up in families where the dad is away on business a lot or he's working and it sounds like you never stopped seeing your dad he was always he was always around you know like they wasn't together but they was always basic my mum like now I wasn't I'm like I know you was mum he was staying over on a Friday night. Like I know but he always read me a good bedtime story, so that was fine. That's so sweet. And he wasn't happy with you going on Love Island. No. But you went and proved everyone wrong and I loved it when you're like, oh don't look like the mother girls. But you do look I I remember watching that and thinking, but you do look like the mother girls. Like you were hot on the show. You know what looking back now I was like my body was probably the best it's ever been. I was like twenty-one, you know. But that's when you don't appreciate all of us when we're twenty-one. We're like But you wanna shake yourself back then, don't you? Yeah, I don't know what I ever meant by that. Because um I think you're looking at other girls constantly, aren't you? And like what they're wearing and they've got like the sexy vong bikinis on and and for me I just couldn't upkeep the um the hair and makeup. It used to bore me to tears. Oh but also in the sun. They do it now. They'll do a full face and take all those fillers into the sun and I always think it's a biohazard. I watched the going, what's just for like your skin and like in the morning you just I just could not be bothered to sit there and do like a full face of glam. It was just wasn't for me at all. I think we just kind of forgot, oh god, we are being filmed 24-7. Like I think if I went in there now, I probably would be a bit more like, oh, I need to make sure I've got concealer on. And whereas 21, I know Love Island was a thing. Um obviously the series before of like Olivia Atwood and Anbar and you know that was a great series. But I feel like they wasn't as glam as it is now, you know? Well, reality TV will never be what it used to be because it's all too knowing now there's an expectation and we had it back when it was fresh. And you were very fresh. As much as you were beautiful, if not more beautiful than the other girls, you did come across uh you had an innocence to you, like this girl next door, this wisdom that they didn't have. So I suppose you broke the mold in that way. And I've heard you talk about negative comments and anxiety and stuff. Yeah. I can't imagine that coming out of that series you had any negativity whatsoever. I never saw it. It wasn't so much because there then I think it was like I I've always had it for like say my voice. Like people like comment on like com mon and voice and I might not pronounce my words properly. But I've got better with my T's. I do say water now. That's only 'cause my little boy tells me off. Oh does he? Yeah, he goes, Mummy, it's water. So you used to say water. Water. Water. Like butter. So now I say butter. And Jared is more but I mean he's he's really pronounces all of his words. He's more like he says when I say things I'm very like expressional when I say it. Like I'd be like, have some mayo in there. He's like, Danny, why don't you just say have some mayo? I'm like, oh yeah, I am a bit expressional. I mean, because you grew up with Sue. And you're sitting down with Gate. Watching Deal or No Deal. Exactly. Yeah. Um, I forgot what the the questi questionon was again? I think um negative comments. Negative comments criticized your accent, which again, if I can say as an aside, and this is about you, not about me, but can I say as an outsider, we all sound the same in Canada and we don't have class structure in Canada. Yes. So this country seems to be very preoccupied with like, well, you come from this neighborhood and you talk like that, and that's how we differentiate ourselves from you. And to hear it, it sounds so stupid to me. It's not even a consideration. No, no. And I don't think you mispronounce your words. You pronounce your words like because of the culture that you grew up in, that is the accent that you guys have. Yeah. Do you know what I'm saying? Yeah, it is a like because it's that mixture of so I was in East London till I was about twelve, yeah, and then I moved to Essex. So it's all a little variety of mixture of both, really. Can you imagine saying to a Chinese person like you sound too Chinese? I live in China, I speak Chinese. I know it's it is ra it is crazy when people judge the voice and and I get a lot of the um I don't I go through phases, I think it's how I feel myself, but you know, like you'll get the Nepo baby stuff, I'll get a lot of that, quite a lot of the time you feel about that. Uh I don't really mind it. I think it's like I d I don't really still kind of get it, you know, it's like, oh yeah,, you you know're only famous 'cause of your dad and all that stuff. But I think I would have wanted to have done Love and Love Island regardless. So I think it's just more of like a throwaway comment. Do you think you would have been chosen if it weren't for your dad? I don't know, because I n obviously going back now I realised that yearly they like to have someone you know, they had Tommy Fury, didn't they? They did. Um and they had Marcel. I can't remember what his parents done. So they did go and they've said Bell Hassan, her father is Tamar. So I do kind of get that they like to have that. But I don't know if I'd have been chosen or not. That's a good opportunity if they didn't. Well, I think Nepo baby wasn't even a turn of phrase until really recently. Yeah. And people are fascinated with the next generation, you know, the offspring of people they grew up watching. But it's a way, I think, of um , you know, taking agency away from you and negating all the wonderful things that you've achieved on your own and your personality and all your all your skills, like being a Nepo baby, whatever that is, will only take you so far. It might get your foot in the door. Yeah. But you ascended on Love Island and all your subsequent projects, not because of who your dad is at all. I think it's just like not reading things, ain't it? Like not trying to um like Twitter and stuff I remember d completely deleting to Twitter and Facebook 'cause Facebook they're mean on Facebook, aren't they? It's always that well, you know when people like who who's that? Who cares? And you know, them stupid like little comments. Whereas my dad at the minute is really obsessed with looking at Facebook comments. Is he? I'm like, stop it. Like he'll ring me up and he's like, oh this one's sad. I'm like, I don't know why you you''re havent even got Facebook. How are you getting these links? You actually got like a fake profile. It's like I'm not looking at it anymore. I'm looking at it anymore. Your dad's Linda from Leeds on Facebook just making complaints. I think no, I've I'm quite good now at actually not choosing to search. You know, like you know, you'd type in your name on the Daily Mail or something and then you'd see all that, that like that's just you just know you're gonna get complete and utter pain from seeing that. So I've got better at trying to avoid it, you know? Yeah. Was there negativity about your dad when you were growing up? Because I know even his career ebbed and flowed a lot and he's been really open about some of his challenges. Yeah, if I'd say so. Like at school, would they talk about who your dad? A lot of the girls just fancied my dad. Yeah, see that's the thing with your dad. They really fancied him, and I'd like, oh your dad's so fit, and I'd just be like, Oh, thank you. I didn't really know how to respond to that. Like, yeah, well you see . Um so I used to get that quite a lot. And um the boys, it was really weird because when I went to a school called Cumberland until I was I moved in year eight, which is like the worst year to move, I think. Because you've got your friends. They ain't none of them give a shit really, like who my mum and dad like my dad was, no no one cared. But then when I got to Essex it was a little bit more like oh Has your dad ever confronted any of your bullies or trolls? Yeah, he says more, he bites back more to them than like himself. Yeah. Um he says he just can't bear it. Like he but I would be the same of having children now if someone said anything about my child. You know, I remember once I was bullied and my mum like the school weren't doing anything, so my mum went round the ha the mum's house herself and I was like, right mum, I don't want you to get arrested over this shit. I think I'd be sad if you're. I'm the confrontation mother. Um, so yeah, she just will not have it. Do you think you have a bit of William the Conqueror in you? Could you in your little vest turn up and be like, boom, what'd you say about Santie? Yeah, I think I'm very you've become so defensive I know. I was pretty bad with my first daughter. I was like a mama bear. But now I think if you bullied the little ones, I'd assume they deserved it because they're awful. I got my own ecosystem of kids now because they love each other. I'm sure yours are the same. They love each other and they fight and they love each other and they fight. That's mine. boy mom I'd be like what ages have you got he's the problem um fr Violet's 16 now violet's 16 she absolutely loves you of course she does uh Fred is four, and then we have Fan at, which is an out-of-the-x name. She's three. And the baby Holland is five months. Oh my, you're amazing. No, I'm really mentally mentally not all there. I don't know what I was doing. I was so good with one. And now I'm just have to work for the rest of my life. Are you done now? Yeah . Do you think that because you're so young, you might do what your parents have done and take a decade off and then start the engine again and have more kids like I've done. Shh. I just I I thought you could never say never, because Jared would be like, yeah, have another one. But it's like two years, babe, again out of my life. You know what I mean? That like whole nine months of being pregnant and then another year of like a bit like ooh, you feel a bit sloty, don't you? So yeah, it's a lot to do. My advice would be don't. I hate to say that. The children do not listen to podcasts yet, so don't do it. Enjoy your life. Get out while you can. That's what I'm thinking because that they sort of grow up then, don't they? And it becomes a little bit easier and like I love a newborn. You put me in a I would love to just look after newbones. They're just the smell of them, they're just perfect. They in they're just perfect. The innocence of them, you know, putting their little baby goes, I love all of that. But it's just then they get to like eight, nine months and they're dribbling and and it's also the sleepless nights and there's a lot of shit that comes with it. 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But I was with Jared at this point. Okay, we should go back to the beginning of your pregnancy journey because I know you've spoken about it before that before your first son you had a loss. Yes. And you were would have been really young for a miscarriage. Well, it it was literally so Santi was like a rainbow baby. Like I got pregnant that same I sort of had the miscarriage and then kind of got pregnant straight away. So there was no in-between period. Wow. Yeah. Cause I think when obviously you're young, you're not on contraception, you know what you're doing, you know what I'm saying, but I wasn't on contraception for a very long time, and then I kind of got pregnant, and that was like, oh my god, I'm pregnant, what am I gonna do? But then it was sort of the loss happened so quickly. Okay. But then all of a sudden I wanted to be pregnant. I was like, well, I'm gonna be preg nant now. You know? Yeah. Like I didn't have a breather I was like I'm having this baby and then yeah, had sanity . You never want to be pregnant more than when you're having miscarriage. Yeah. It especially if you had that type of personality and you work for what you want and you know, you can just decide. And when you're twenty three you get pregnant just by looking at your boyfriend. So then you had Santee. Yeah. Yeah. Okay. So then did you feel what they call scanxiety with him? Did your anxiety heighten in that pregnancy? Yeah, and I I was just so scared all the time that something was gonna go wrong. Like but then I become like addicted to it. So like I was having like scans once a month because I think on the NHS you get like three scans, don't you? And I was like, that's not going to fulfil my needs. Yeah. I need to have scans constantly. I think I have a portfolio at home of just scan photos of Sadden D because I was so obsessed with checking that he was okay. It just became a little bit of like uh as soon as I'd have the scan, I'd feel fine and then it'd get to three weeks and I'd go, I need another one. I need another one. I could become obsessed with it. It's awful in a way once you've had a loss, because number of scans. It ruins the experience a little bit. A little bit, yeah. But then also you can lose them in the parking lot on your way out of the scan. So what's the point? But you just keep going back to check and check and check. The thing is well, still confused. I'm not a healt h anxiety, I don't have anxiety around health really. You know, if I've got a cold, I'll be fine. I very rarely go to the doctors back myself. But with my children, I am more so I don't know as soon as I got pregnant, I just developed this anxiety with oh my god, I want make to make sure my my child's okay. Yeah. So I think I develop because even now I mean I'm at the doctors all the time, I'm that person 'cause if they've had like the shit's more than a week I'm like something's wrong and it's just viral. Well yours are probably sick all the time because you've got three so young. Yeah. And they overlap fevers and colds and you don't know. Yeah. Yeah. And then how were you with anxiety when he was born? You know what? I think it was that first time mum thing, and I think for me, I didn't want a C-section. I was did not want a C-section. I wanted like a beautiful Labour with Ariana Grande on in the background, you know, I wanted it to be perfect. And then it wasn't that. So I think I was so annoyed that it wasn't that. So then I was sort of struggling 'cause I'd never got my head around having a C section. I didn't really do research of a C section recovery or you know, you but it's really difficult. Have you heard a C section ? Oh yeah, so it's so painful. Um afterwards like I'm very mobile and then you're sort of restricted to doing anything. Um but my mum was amazing, like she w like basically moved in with me. Um but yeah that first time mum thing was am I doing the right thing with like breastfeeding and it was sort of we was in and out of COVID as well, so it was a little bit of a lonely place. And I was just constantly on Google, should I be doing this? Should I be doing that? And everyone's got different stories or everyone's doing their own things. Um so I was constantly trying something. No, but he's not sleeping, he's not fit. Oh my god, I was a nightmare. I wish I could have Sandy now. Yeah, yeah. Birth him now because it'd be just it I'd be a lot more cheerful, I'd say. Do you think you missed out on some of that honeymoon phase with your new baby because you're anxious? Yeah, I'd say so. Yeah, because I was constantly comparing and constant ly worrying. I'm such a worrier. Are you? Yeah. I've always I worry if something like really good's happening, I'm like, well something bad's gonna happen now. I'm like the worst person and I would love to change that. But I just think it's you, isn't it? You are what you are at the end of the day. So yeah, I would say now, like at 24, having him, new fears, new worries, new anxieties, and I remember like getting him them, like the pad to sleep on, you know, like to make sure it like it was Like if I'm like at home making like a fish cake from scratch, she's like, Why would you do that? Just buy one from Tesco and put it in the air fryer. Like, why? She's so chilled. So it's nice to have my mum to just like mellow me out a little bit when I'm getting a bit like in my head. I'm sorry that happened to you with your birth. And have you ever had therapy to talk about that specific birth trauma? No. You know, they recommend that now. And I know you're all over it and it's a wonderful documentary about motherhood. Yeah. But I think a lot of women have this experience of imagining that something so important, so such a milestone like the birth of their first child is gonna go one way. And then terrible things happen where you almost lose your life where there's an emergency or it ends in a different way than you thought, especially if you women are explained C-sections in such a way that glosses over the very serious surgery that it is and r recovery. Um, they're encouraging more women to talk about the post traumatic stress of that actually. Yeah, 'cause you do, you just punish yourself, I think, when you 'cause I just did and I remember 'cause when obviously you have the baby like through the vagina obviously you know it brings up all the um is it muc I don't know what they have mucus but obviously when you have a C-section they can't really bring it up so I remember crying going he can't bring his mucus up because of like I was such a nightmare and just yeah, punished myself. And that's why I think when I got pregnant with the twins, when I initially got pregnant, I was like, Yes, I'm gonna have the birth I want and then I got to the doctors and and the hospital appointments and I was like, Because your first was on like an emergency C section, we're like, we just cannot recommend to , you know, do it vaginaline. I was like, oh God, okay, that's annoying. Well you See, there is still a part of me that wants to have like a natural, you know, just have that experience of like no gas and air and no epid ural. I don't know why. I'm nuts for even thinking that. Because I've had it all. Yeah. Every st I remember going in there and he was like, you know, when they do the epidural and he was like, this is gonna feel like a really good gin and tonic. And I was like, this is the best gin and tonic I've ever had. Oh my gosh. The best. I've never had an epidural, but I love hospital drugs so much. Like anytime I've had a surgery, I'm like, give it to me slow. I love it. Oh the morphine and stuff. Oh my god, I just chat and chat and chat. They must think I've told them stories when I was about eight eight years old. They're like God. It under I understand the perspective of a junkie in the park. Because you're like, how can he live like that? And you're like, no, he's having a great life. He has hero It's like the best, isn't it? The hospital drugs. Yeah. They can tell they definitely lock them up. So you went for a scan early in your pregnancy with the twins. I cannot believe you did that alone. It's really brave, actually, considering you'd had a loss in the past. But thankfully it went okay. And then you brought Jared to the 11 week scan and you found out it was twins. Yeah. Were you happy about that? I think I was just more shocked. Yeah. Like we laughed all day. We really, really giggled. Um, because my best friend also was pregnant with twins at the same time. So she told me like a week before that she was having twins. And I remember go she was like, I don't know what to do, it's twins. I was like, listen, we're gonna get through this, like we'll support, I'll support you. And I remember getting off the phone going, God ain't me . And then I rang her, like, it's twins, game, we've got to do it together. So yeah, it was the most shocking experience. You just do not prepare for ever being pregnant with twins. I don't know how you do it. I have a lot of kids, but not at the same time. Multiples I mean it must be the most stressful thing in the world. Yeah, it is. It's hard. They are so rewarding and when they're like being lovely and like the other day they were just sitting there eating their little sausage rolls, I look at them like, oh you girls you're so worth it. But then other days I think, oh no, this is brutal. How can it be this hard? And especially because you are working so much, you 've got all these projects on the go how do you balance like filming and Jared playing and traveling and being a mum I think you just I'm very good with my calendar and obviously I have some weeks, like some days where I can just be at home and just be present and I love that. Like my little boy gets annoyed when I'm not picking him up from school. Um but I think now the girls are at nursery, Sunny's at school, which is great. The school's lovely, they have like breakfast c clublubs and tea times goes karate and I'll get to that thing with the girls when they start school I'll have more of the options to do that. My mum is amazing. So I am really lucky to like, you know, Travid's family they can g they'll come down when they can to obviously help and it is a juggle, I'm not gonna lie. There are some days where I'm like worn thin. And does it get to you and that worrying part of you and the anxiety? Do you have what they call mum guilt ? Oh, whatever that means. Yeah. Do you get mum guilt? Yeah. Well, yeah. I think I'm a lot more traditional than people imagine because I'm a feminist and I'm really progressive, but then you have that newborn and you're like, I shouldn't leave her with her dad. I can't leave her with that man over there. She doesn't know him. Her dad. Yeah, yeah. I do think it should be me. Yeah, but I do think it's still there is still that stigma though, isn't there? Like, who's looking after your baby? Or like it's all and if uh with the dad, oh what a good dad. You still have all of that. But I don't feel like that will ever really change. No. Um so yeah, it that I'm lucky to be fair, 'cause Jared some days, he'll be home by like two o'clock. So I'm like, this is amazing. Do you know what I mean? This works. But when he does work away, yeah, then it's a little bit like or it gets a little bit on top sometimes. You know, like that bath bedtime routine. I'm like, oh my God. So yeah, the mum guilt does stem I think when I've had a few days away from them or they cry when you leave 'em, you know what I mean? Like when you go out the door and they have like a little bit of a cry or you know like some days when you've just I've said it before, them like days where you're just a bit overstimulated and you're just like being go, go, go and then the little thing annoys you and then they go to bed and you're like Oh god, I really should have been a bit kinder you know, like that sort of thing. But do they like the money? They like the money. Are you enjoying school kids? Yeah. You like those trainers? Yes. That's what I mean. It's like you've there's so much stuff that you have to buy a child. It's actually ins Where did you meet Jared? He was my next door neighbour. What? Oh yeah, I did know this. Yeah. I forget that I know all about your life . In a parasocial way. I love that. I moved next door to him and him and his best friend lived there. And then um I didn't think nothing of it and he was very um quiet. Like I remember his friend, um Lou, he's he's lovely, he's such a good like good friend of mine. But second choice, not hot. No, he didn't fancy him. He used to knock on the door . He used to knock on my door and he'd be like, How are you? Like we like we it's me and Jared, blah blah blah, oh that's really sweet. And then um Jared had a couple of my parcels and he'd like knock on my door and like give me a parcel and I remember the first time I see him I was like oh my god you are so fit because he has the like nicest blue eyes yeah like I'm a sucker for a blue eye and I remember just staring at him for ages. I was like, oh my god I,'m four months postpartum. I cannot. Um, but yeah. You moved next to him when you just had your son. Yeah. And I was still like obviously with the father. So I was a bit like behaviour self-sided . Yeah, yeah, tits were leaking, like the hair was on top of my head, like I was not, you know, at my best. And there was this one time I remember I had a photo show, and I'd he'd see me, and I walk back and I thought this is where I can be sometimes, you know, and I'd put the the key in door, he put the key in the door. It was like a movie moment. And we had a little smile, but literally nothing. And then he moved. He he bought a house and moved. And he was like, see you later. And I was like, bye. Didn't think nothing of it. And then on my birthday, he like slipped in the DMs and said happy birthday. And I was like, Is this are you flirting with me a little bit? I was like, Oh, thank you very much. And and I at this point I knew nothing about football. Yeah. Um, but I was like, Oh, well done in your game on the weekend, and bearing in mind I didn't watch it. And then we just spoke every single day. It was the most easiest relationship I'd I've ever had in my entire life, which was so nice. Be uscauseually they would bore me. Yeah. They'd bore me to tears. Like if someone was really nice to me and wrung me and didn't blank my calls, I'd be like, oh my god, I'm so bored of you. And I remember I used to have like therapy about that 'cause I could not understand why I was like it. Like if someone didn't give me that fire in my belly I would just switch off and then he would kind of get me through it, Chris, the therapist and be like th you know, these are your signs and you know understanding why I w felt that way. And then in the end, I was just like, let's just put the fire down and have something a little bit more nicer, you know. So Chris would keep you in these relationships? Yeah, so Chris kept the bad relationships? No, that but no, he got me into like a good rel ationship. But not the bad ones. Chris kept me invested. No, Chris. And these guys. Chris kept me in a sense with Javard, I would say. Because like when I'd first met Javard, I was still going through like therapy with Chris. And then obviously I was like, oh, I'm speaking to someone no and and all that kind of stuff and explained it to him and he was like this would be like really good for you like you know and he w they just put things into a different perspective don't they? Yes, therapy is really important. I think also it's about the place you are in your life and the universe will send you lessons for a reason. And it sounds like you met him when you were ready to be with someone. Yeah. What neighborhood is this? It's like the real love island, I feel nobody has this story of like well randomly moved next to a footballer. It was so random. It was um in S it was called Stapleford Abbots. Got it. So maybe people should move there if they're kids for love. Too late for me to meet a football er. Do you worry sometimes about being a wag? Do you have to be friends with all the other wags and participate in like wag culture? I don't know. I want to be, I don't do anything waggy. No. At all. No. Like I remember like one of my friends was speaking to a footballer once. I was like, oh my god, don't speak to a footballer. Like, you know, they have such a bad rep, don't they? And then I ended up getting with one. Which is yeah, but I don't feel like I do anything waggy at all . And I feel like it's what it used to be back in the day. You know, like when there was like Victoria Beckham and Colleen Rooney and You could make it that again. They were so sexy and standing there in their like little vests and what are they wearing and it's not like that now, I don't think. No. We've moved on from the naughty, thankfully. Yeah. It's like that was followed everywhere. Yeah. I wouldn't want that. You don't feel that you're hounded at all by the media or paparazzi? It depends like what's going on really. When I first come off Love Island that was inten se. Um I do sometimes have someone like waiting outside my gates. Like he'll just sit there sometimes and I'm like, but then he I'm pretty boring, like he'll follow me to the school runs and MS and I'm back again. So I think sometimes he's a bit like oh I'll leave her to it. That's it. What's the article? What is it? And then he takes out the bins again. They always get me in Morrison's though. He always gets me there. But then you know some days you look okay and then you're like I don't mind it today, and then other days when you're like wearing your oversized stuff and like your hair's not been washed for days and they just get you, don't they? Can we talk about body image? Yes. Because I think the age that you were on Love Island and the type of show that that was I know there's a lot of pressure to look good on that show in a bikini. Yeah. How do you feel about all of that now as a mum? You've had two C sections. You look great to me, but I don't it's about how you feel on the inside about yourself. Yeah, I think when you have a C section, you get like a C section pouch. So it's like a lot of like my tight little leggings that I had, you'll put it on and it just it like overhangs. But I have great knickers that I buy. Yeah. Like really good suck-me-in knickers. But I just love them. Like little Amazon cheapy ones as well. Like I always tell my little girls, like it makes me sad because I know one day they're gonna be like, Mummy I'm not pretty or you know, they're I feel so every morning I tell 'em how beautiful they are. 'Cause I just want them to know that they're so beautiful. And they will. They'll put a little fancy dress and they go, Mummy, I'm just so beautiful and I don't want them to grow up and say to me one day like Mummy I'm ugly or Mummy I'm fat or you know it's so hard I think as well because it's so easy to compare to but I feel like for me when I was on Love Island, like, don't get me wrong, I think majority of people, before you go on that show, you're like, oh my god, like, you know, when you feel like you can't eat a thing, there is so much pressure. Yeah. Because it's not so much like women being all different shapes and sizes, is people still not dealing with that very well, and people just commenting such hatred. You know, if someone's too skinny, oh my god, she's so skinny, or say if you've had a curry and you've got bloke the next day, oh my god, are you pregnant? So I think if people stopped commenting and people stopped judging, then people would be more happy in their bodies. I hope that you and I are raising our children in a generation that has fixed that a bit. I think it was at its most toxic for a while. Although now I don't think so because, I think everyone, you know, is on like the Monjaro. But I know people that have taken that and they was, you know, overweight and it's completely transformed them lives. But it's when people don't need it and they're taking it and then they look very poorly. Yeah. So it I don't know if it is changing that much. I don't know. Some days I think it is, and I see things and I'm like, this is really great. Um but then other times I'm like, oh it depends what side of TikTok you go on. Yeah, you're right. You know? Now they're just using like pharmaceutical assistance to like fuel their eating disorder. Yeah. You're right. Okay. Um what do you do to stay healthy then? Because day to day, you've got all these projects. Yeah. You're famous. Your dad's famous. Your husband's famous. Um, and are you eating well? Are you resting? Are you doing stuff like that? I don't know about the resting. Um I love the gym. Great. I love the gym. So I'd I'd like to go like four times a week and Pilates, I love reform of Pilates. So the fitness side of things I've always loved. 'Cause I remember when I was like twelve, thirteen I used to get home from school and I'd wanna wanna do um, you know them like workout DVDs. Yeah, yeah. Like I loved it. And I've done like half marathons with my uncle. I've always in I feel like for me, if I didn't have children, I would do so much more on the fitness side of things, but it's the training for them, which is quite long. You know, like training for marathons and all that kind of stuff. It's a lot of time. You can't do that if you're their you're their mom. Only if you're their dad. You see dads all the time. Going to Egypt to run another triathlon. It's like, didn't your wife just have a bab y yesterday? Yeah. Yep, yep. We'll be gone for a while. Yeah, yeah. You just imagine if I'm right, I'm gonna go train for a marriage for now. It's just it just wouldn't happen. Yeah. But the gym I need it for my sanity, and like of an evening Jared knows I'm like I go Pilates these three days a week so no no um he has like appearances after I'm like so make sure you're back by this time. Oh that's great. So he comes home and then you go Yeah I have to go my Pilates I have to do it. He knows how much I love it.. Okay So I need to do that. Eating wise, I've always been bad at breakfast. Unless I'm going out for a nice, you know, a bit of avocado on toast and I've tried them is it them assay bowls, all them seeds, and I can't do it, I gag uh them bowls, they just make me feel sick. I've always loved a good old lunch. Mm. I love a good lunch and I love a good dinner. I love my dinners. Like when me and Jared have been doing Gusto recently. Me too. But I do have to add a few more potatoes. Fine. They're very tight on how many potatoes you get. I'm like, I need more chips than that bag. You know what you need to do is if you're ordering for two people, you just need to do the four person. Yeah, just yeah. Do four-person gusto, trust me. And then if there's any leftover, you put it in the fridge and then you have that for breakfast. Oh god, no, not for breakfast. I have it for breakfast. Like a cold Thai curry. I don't care. You don't. I do. Oh I'm that busy . I'll be like, dinner for breakfast, let's go. And then I'll have like coffee and Red Bull. But my biological age is really bad. It's seventy seven. Yeah, I know. Yeah. Do you drink alcohol? Um, occasionally. Mm-hmm. I don't mind um a little gin in a tin. I like anything in a tin because he's so much quicker. Yep. Um so like say when I'm with my friends we'll have a few. I don't really drink in the week. Jared doesn't drink. Great. He like just doesn't drink at all. Whereas if I go to my mum and dad's straight away like babe, do you want a beer, do you want a glass of wine? It's very they're very social social drinkers. Like my mum will come round on like a two o'clock and go, You got any ciders? She'll just drink a little cider. Um but yeah, Jared's not really a drinker, so I don't know if that's maybe I just don't drink. It'll have a huge impact on Yeah. But then on the weekend say if you've got your mates around, like we'll have a little bottle of rose or Yeah, I love that. So I don't when people say that you know to go to the doctors, how many units of alcohol do you drink? I'm like, I don't know. Sometimes binge, sometimes none. Yeah, yeah, yeah. That first time the question comes up and it's just like more than fourteen. And you're like, is thirty-five more than fourteen? Yes. How many units? I don't know. I think that if your biological age is high , then it sounds like you you you manage stress really well, but you do have anxiety. You've been through ups and downs with, you know, like pregnancy stuff and relationship stuff. Okay. Do you know it already? I don't. But if it's low, what do you think that'll be down to? Maybe like the joy of the relationships in your family. I don't know. I don't know. Could be I'm on my feet quite a lot. Would that help? Mm-hmm. I am on my feet all day. I find it hard to not be on my feet. Now obviously I'm sitting here. But like if I'm just like sitting down and put something on the TV I'm like, oh I can't do this. I've got to get back up. And what's your domestic setup? Are you the one folding laundry and cooking meals? Do you have housekeepers for that? No, I would love one. Yeah. I'd love a housekeeper. I have Vicky who comes once a week and I love it when she lit like when she the smell of just her smells are just if I could have her all the time I'd gen,uinely would. Sounds like you need a wife. I should get another wife. Yeah. But no, I do all my laundry, cooking, cleaning, and all that. No one can clean the way I can or Vicky, to be honest. You're a good cleaner. I do like to Vicki, my cleaner is ten out of ten. I will never find anyone like her. No. And she's moving soon, which is gonna break my heart into pieces. I feel like I'll have long conditions. Jared moved away and he didn't like it, and he asked you to marry him. Vicky's moving away and she's gonna think it's Danny's birthday. Slide into the DMs. This is the next phase of your relationship. I love her. Like she you know when you just find someone that you adore, like I trust her like she's do you have a cleaner? I do. Oh yeah. And I feel the same romantic passion. Absolutely adore her. Yeah. She makes me feel a way in which I would never be able to. But I'm on the same page as you as I don't think as much as I would love a housekeeper, I think this is a really relatable conversation in the current economy, by the way. We're so down to work with the humble man of the UK. But it would be weird having someone in your house all the time and I do get a certain uh mental relaxation from doing those domestic things myself. I do like to fold the laundry. I like doing my own washing. Uh that's I like to they have to be washed in a certain way. I'm a little bit particular on things like that and like the kids' clothes and and I like coming home sometimes, you know, and and just cleaning my kitchen is very therapeutic. It is. You know, having a bit of music on and boys to men. Like changing the beds. No. It's a bit of an ag doing it. But then once they're clean, oh my god, the foot like knowing they're having their like bath the kids and getting into fresh beds, there's no better feeling, is there? But my Vicky changes the beds, I can't change the beds. Oh no, Vicky changes my beds. Okay. But I do the kids. Nice. Maybe I'll graduate. If if I can take anything away from this chat today, if I want to be sweeter, more lovable, more Danny Dyer, I could start that by changing my own kids' beds. It's just there are 17 beds. Yeah, no, don't bother. Would you like us to reveal your biological age, Danny Dyer? I don't know. I don't think so. Let's invite our resident scientist, Dr. Nicola Conlan. We've gone through the highs and lows of life as Danny Dyer , and Nicola has been studying human longevity for over a decade, so she's the best person to interpret your results . Good outfit. Shot on film, huh? Suspiciously cute dog. And then Sup You deserve a better intro. For example, one that gets your need to move when the playlist locks in . Say goodbye to boring openers. Try music mode and let your playlist speak for itself. Now on Tinder On booking.com it's easy to book your holiday home. And thanks to no hidden fees, there's no more. Guys, found a villa, I'm confirming. 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