Biological Age Results and Conclusion

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Kath and Ryan, thanks for having me. What do you think your biological age is gonna be? I think my biological age is either going to be really young or really old. It's gonna be like 27 or 72. Your chronological age is 40. Your biological age is Hello and welcome once again to What's My Age Again. I'm Catherine Ryan and this is the only podcast where we ask our guests to give us their blood for science and my own amusement. We want to know if how old they feel is how old they really are, and the results will leave you gagged. On today's episode, we have the Queen of the Multi-hyphenate, Laura Whitmore. She's a presenter, author, podcaster, documentary, filmmaker, and actress. One thing I'm sure her test will reveal is that she means business. But how is she coping on a cellular level with the demands of such a successful career? Our tests will reveal all, and as always, Dr. Nicola Conlin is here to interpret those results. Laura Whitmore, thanks for being here. Kathy and Ryan, thanks for having me. It's always nice to see you in a in a format setting with questions on cards. This is where it's different to your house, because you don't normally have the mic set up on your sofas, but I like it. It's very formal today. There's less alcohol here. There is. I was pretty upset about that. But anyway. It's beautiful though. It's gorgeous. It's very bright. It's very pink. Did you design it yourself? I did. I like it. Better lit than my actual home and fewer children. I don't like to be normally lit this much when I'm in someone's house. I like kind of that kind of dark lighting. Do you know like that when you go to a restaurant and you can't really see the person you're with? I don't even care about the menu. I just want to know what the lighting is before I book somewhere. And that's actually how I got with my husband Bobby because we are on a night out. He wanted to wee in a kebab shop and I said I won't be stumbling into that lighting. No, no, no, no. It's like too bright, like hospital lights. No. And also you'd be going in there at four AM when it's d you know, after a night out, which isn't the best time. I won't be going in there. This is no, this is it's bright, but I feel I'm hoping I'm well lit. Well, I don't think you need to be well lit. I do need to be well lit. Segway to the podcast, you are really beautiful, really glowing. And I know That's why I come here because I just want compliments because Catherine's always very nice to me. We wait till the end to reveal the biological age, but I feel like if it's anything over seven years old . I'm gonna be shocked because you have so much energy. You do so many things. Look at the thickness of these cards. But I'm not out at night. I'm not out at night. And you do the day and the n I'm not I think though, I think I'm like gaslighting people in what I'm doing. Because I'm probably in bed posting a picture from something a few days ago. most photographed women in Britain. Like really? Yeah, like the most. Not by choice I wasn't. It was pre-daughter, pre-marriage. Yeah. I think this is when Leonardo Di DiCaprio was a few. Oh when like I was yeah, he like walked past me once and it was like, oh. But no, I got I was too old to be dating him, is what I was told. That's why I was confused by the headline. I know, because I was like, I think I was 31. I think there was a mm-no, this can't be true. She's a woman in her thirties. She can't be seen talking to him. Imagine me talking to a boy and not sleeping with him. I know, but maybe maybe he has changed his type. He goes for biological age. Maybe. Yeah, yeah. What's his what's his um cut-off point? Twenty five, I think. Twenty-five. Okay, so if it's over twenty-five, that's my chances with DiCaprio gone. He's listening in. He is. I met him, he was very fine. So you just did speak to him? Yeah. Hang on a minute, because first you walked past him, didn't speak No, now you've spoken to him. Yeah. How many times did you have sex? Um sad ly, zero. Actually not sadly. No. I d not my type. No. I like funny boys. Yeah, I do. I have a very specific like type. Yeah. And there was another guy around that time that no one ever knew about. And who's a funny person? Like an actual comedian? Peter K. Peter K. Peter K. Michael McIntyre. No. No, I just have a I have a very specific type probably. Okay. But yeah, that wasn't there. You're a woman who knows how to do- and I wasn't his, I'm sure as well. No one reached out to you from his team to be like Leonardo DiCaprio spotted you. I can't even say that. No, I talked to him because it's real life. But did he seem interested? I don't know. I don't know, 'cause I probably wasn't thinking that way. Yeah. If I'm honest with you. Think you're exactly his type. He's a bit old. Yeah. Is it but he's very talented and lovely, but he is a bit old he's a bit old for me. Good. Sorry, sorry, you're too 'cause everyone's always saying that it's the other way round, but I kind of feel Okay, well we'll get to your romantic relationship. Sorry to dive straight into the tabloid stories about you. No, I w it was when it was put in the front it was put in the front of a paper. And I think they used an image of me from like a magazine in my underwear years ago. Which was like a really classy shoot if it was in the right appropriate setting, because it was a fashion shoot. But I was it made it look like that's what I wore to the BAFTAs. Out of context. Out of context, yeah. Love that. I mean how how could he not notice? If your body could tell the truth about your life so far, what do you think it would say you have done too much of, and what do you think it would say you've done too little of? I think this might shock you. I think I'm too sensible. Yeah. I'm quite sensible. I've always been very sensible , particularly in my teenage years. Mm. I wish I was a bit naughty. Sensible in what way? So you never overdid it with the partying? No, I never overdid it with the partying. I always was the person to bring my friends home or put them in a cab if they got too messy or I'd leave a party early because I got tired. I was always the first to bed at a house party, but I always got a bed. So do you know when you go to a house party like especially student days and student accommodation? I'd always get a bed 'cause I'd be the first to go to sleep. So were you always a a young woman with a plan? I grew up with just my mom um who's fabulous. But like, you know, I would always be very cautious about things and I was very aware of the world and the dangers of the world. Yeah. I remember like having a waitressing job when I was like seventeen and it was only like ten minutes up the road but I'd always use my tips to pay for a cab home but never one else would walk because I was afraid I'd get stabbed and murdered on the way home. Yeah. Because that was the reality. I was very aware of things like that that could happen. And you grew up in County Wicklow? County Wicklow. Is there a lot of stabbing going on? Um there's stabbings happen everywhere. But yeah, I was there had been like I remember reading things, maybe it's I'm always being a little bit obsessed with true cri You're just researching for the future podcast. But my mom when my mom was younger and I have said this before in a doc that I did, like my mom was put in a van when she was like seventeen, no eighteen on O'Connell Street by a group of gu ys, and her her her friend who she was with froze, and my mum said I got stopped at the traffic lights, and she pushed her way out because the door was still open. So I remember her telling me that story. So I think I've always So you're sensible from young. Yeah. You're out at night, but you're the first one in bed because you want to get the bed at the house party, you want to be sensible, focused. I just see you as being someone because I read a study about drug abuse and kids who go off the rails and they interviewed the ones who never went off the rails and they said, why didn't you do this? rather than ask the ones, why did you? And all those kids were like, oh well, if I did that, I wouldn't be able to go to basketball practice in the morning. If I did that, it would interfere with my trajectory. They all had a vision. Maybe. Like I am ambitious, and I do think I think I've I've always been maybe a little bit too professional for my like I if I say I'm gonna show up to something I'll show up. I can't tell you what state I'll be in but I will be there. And the same I remember when I got the MTV job which was um I just won a competition and moved from County Wicklow to Camden and it was all a bit surreal and I was probably thrown into a culture I didn't really understand and it was exciting. But I was a bit naive and a bit green to what was going on, and I'd go to a lot of parties and I remember this really cute actor guy asking me out and I was like, he's so cute and he's out and I said, Look how shiny his eyes are and my friend's like, he's coked up and I was like, Oh what? Drugs? And I I've never to this day taken a drug. He's so enthusiastic. He's uh I was just like, why is everyone in the bathroom? I'm just on the dance floor. Um so I think I've just been yeah, I've just kind of lived in my little bubble. Maybe it was naivety at that stage when I moved over but I I was twenty-three when I moved to London and I'm really grateful I was twenty-three and not seventeen. I feel I had those four years at university that were quite informative and I knew who I was. So anytime I was in a situation, which I was like when I was there for a while in London where I just I was never into drugs 'cause I never felt safe. Yeah. That was it probably. I always felt like I wanted to be in control. I like a drink, but I never got complet ely messy anywhere because I didn't feel safe in that space. And but I was okay saying no because I knew who I was. You strike me as someone who even if you were drinking, you'd wake up not entirely sure how you got home, but your handbag would be next to you and your phone would be on the other side. Not always the phone. You've lost phones. Oh yeah. Not anymore. I used to went through a state of losing phones a lot. Yeah. Always finding them though. Yeah. I'm not when I say I wish I was less sensible, I don't mean like the drug taking, but I just I felt like I had a lot of weight, responsibility, and I was always very aware of what could happen. And you're an only child of a single mom? Yes. Yeah. So you got like firstborn daughter vibes. Yes, yeah, same. Yeah. And single mom vibes and the only one, so you had to carry it all. And also I feel that this is this is the biggest thing, disappointing my mother. If my mother found out I ever did drugs, like there's no point living. How are you coping with your life right now ? Because you do so much. You're like presenting, you've got the podcasts and scary stuff too, like true crime and Britain's killer teens. Yeah. I know. How many killer teens has Britain got? Many. And you're acting, you're doing theater, and you're you just you do every single thing and you're a mom and you recently turned forty. So what does your life look like now in terms of the juggle? I think if you stop, I don't know if you're the same, if you stop and think about it too much, then it becomes overwhelming. I just like the roller coaster of life and you just every day. I don't know I've got some friends, especially mom friends, who try to like plan things for like in two months' time. Yeah, yeah. And I'm like, girl, I don't know what I'm doing in two days' time. Let me just get through the next few days. I know you have to plan a little bit more when you have a kid. Yeah. But I I actually feel like I gave birth to my mother. Yeah. So yeah, like my daughter is like she's I gave birth to the most incredible human being and she's so kind and loving, but she's also exactly like my mother. So I just know it's gonna be like that ab fab situation which actually is really helpful because I'm like, oh, this is great. I've like and I'm not taking it advantage of that, but she is like the best person ever. So motherhood for me has it's tough, it's hard, but I feel very, very lucky to have this little person who I made in my life. And does she push you on like your mom? You don't want to disappoint her. She's got a taste of the private school. She's like, you need to keep working. I know, gotta keep her in here. Um yeah, but she's she's like a it's mad to like I've got a four year old who I can just see. You're probably the same with your kids. You can see their personalities from like a few months old. I I saw her like I think when I she was tiny, she looked straight into my eyes and I was like, Oh god, she's judging me. I need to I need, to be good at this. And I remember I was at a music festival during the summer, and I I came back that night and I had my boots, my mucky boots outside. And then the next morning, we're up having breakfast, and she was like , Your boots. Huh? Why are they so mucky? And I was like, sorry, I'm gonna go and clean them now. She was like, Oh, okay. She was want me to help you. I'm like, oh great. Yes, do you want to? She's like, Mommy's been out at forest school again. Oh, here she goes again. I was like, Great, if you got little hands, you can get into the nooks and crannies. I think there was an expectation when you have a kid to behave a certain way. I love being a mom, it's the best job in the world. But also I think it's really important to still have your own identity and who you are. And and I think that helps them. I look at my mom worked full time with me. Yeah. And I remember one she said to me and this is she said to me as an at like when I was an adult said I was always really sad that I was too tired to play with you. And I don't remember that. I don't remember her being too tired. But I think that's a guilt that she's held on to. But in my memory she was the only mom in my school that worked. Really? Yeah. So I didn't have my mom picking me up from school. I had a child minder, which I think she felt guilty about, but I was like, Oh my mom wears a suit to work. Yeah, yeah. She looks really cool and she's like working girl and she's like Melanie Griffiths and like yeah. So for me, that's what I took away from it. It's the share like my mama is a rich man. Yeah. Yeah. I was like, who bought your house? My mom did. Yeah. And her mother was really strong woman too. Well, she gave birth to thirteen kids. Wow, I mean So like yeah, that uh and also it was quite small as well. Um and I think you probably had to for that generation. I don't think it was easy. But there's also in my mom's family, she's got eight sisters, and the women, and then there's the four brothers, but I feel the women are strong. Yeah. Like my mom's oldest sister is 20 years older than her, because my mom's the youngest. And like she is out hiking every day and she's out, you know, she's always like she does all this things for the neighborhood, like cleaning up and things. She's nonstop. But I think that's what keeps you young probably. Well the genetics are looking good for the test. I hope so. I don't know. I I went to my mom's 70th with all the sisters and I was first to bed. Because you needed to catch a bed. I need I had to go to bed. Some of them didn't get beds. But that's the that's the family that I grew up in. You're not sensible, you're just strategic. Yes. I'm not sleeping on the floor. No. I'm Laura fucking Whitmore. Respect. So what does a week look like then? Because I do wonder this. Look because I know you I look on your socials and stuff, and I'm just like, what is the setup? Because my husband's a stay-at-home dad. We have a nanny during the week. Yeah. Now two of the little ones have started three days a week, like nursery and reception. But I always look at you and I'm like, well, how's she doing that? Because I do see you out at night sometimes filming Britain's killer teens. It's crazy that you have a show called Britain's Killer Teens. I know. I know. I didn't know. I didn't confuse it, but yeah. But but it's Do you see you like out filming late then up? Then you'll have little snapshots of taking your daughter to school or you you're doing the school run. So But I don't I don't think my Insta my Instagram and my socials aren't my real life. If I'm and I I I really I look and admire people who kind of show , you know, so much of themselves. I personally can't and I think I have certain boundaries because I'm not I'm too sensitive or I'm too like emotionally not in a place where I wanna overshare that because of the judgment maybe. So I think what you see is a very aesthetically pleasing version of my life, which isn't normal. But you're still getting the shots. You're still going to all these places. Like you're awake. You seem to be awake twenty two hours a day. No, I cause I remember I had one job I remember doing this thing, this job with like um the Guinness storehouse opened in um anything Irish, I will be there. I'm sorry that I missed the Guinness themed birthday party at the Guinness Factory. That was very fun, by the way. That was very fun. This is something you would not have missed. That was a job though. I said I have to leave at nine because I want to be home by 9 30 because I'm up doing the school run. And I was there with a group of friends, group of Irish friends, and I went at seven, I left at nine 'cause I said I was going to. But I was home asleep by ten. And then I get up at six the next morning to do, you know, what you have to do and breakfast and all that. And my friend stopped messaging me on the way home from the box. They hadn't been to bed yet. But that's the difference because it might look like we had the same life and the same night, but we did not have the same night. Okay. So there's a chunk of hours where you disappear and you go to bed and then you're back. Oh I always I l I I will sleep. I will find my sleep. What do you think your biological age is gonna be? I think my biological age is either going to be really young or really old. It's gonna be like twenty-seven or seventy-two. I feel like I st in my head mentally I stopped at twenty seven. Mm. I have to rethink when people ask my age. But when I was younger, I was always like a little old woman. Like like when I'd go to house parties, my drink of choice was Harvey's Bristle Cream. Like I love a sherry to this day. I'd go a little bottle. And I used to love to knit on the side. So when I moved to London for the MTV job and didn't know anybody, um you'd have a busy schedule Monday to Friday, but the weekends were quite quiet. So I joined Stitchin' Bitch in King's Cross where I used to go and knit scarfs and try to meet people. Which is not what a twenty three year old should do. Well that's what they do now. Like it's him studying. No, maybe I'm living in the wrong time. How did you stumble upon Sher ry as your drink of choice? Did you have anything I see. And then I was like, why is everyone drinking these house parties when I was seventeen, eighteen? They were drinking these um like warm beers, do you know, like really warm beer that look gross? And I was like, just have a little mini sherry and buy a bottle of sherry, it'll last you for a while. You don't have to drink the whole bottle, you know? And are the aunties as energetic as you are? Yeah. They're more on I said they were they were up past my mom's 70th. They were no jiving. It's like it's dancing, but also looks like fighting because they move so fast. Yeah. And um I was first to bed. I couldn't keep up with them. You do get into heavy subjects too, obviously the killer teens and true crime and cyber stalking. Is there like a mental heaviness that you need to detach from when you do work like that? Because you're always mixing it up. But when you get into this tough stuff, how do you like unwind? I mean that's I'm still probably navigating that. Um and sometimes you feel guilty for I feel guilty for jumping in between different genres. You know, you can go into something true crime or I can go and I can sit and interview a mother and connect with a mother who's lost her child who's given the space to talk to me about it and there's a huge responsibility with that. But then also there's a part of me like a few days later that wants to go to a music festival or in you know, interview a musician or do something completely different for that balance. Um and I think it's important to have both. Yeah. But it's it is I don't know. I don't when I was doing the um the first series , there was a there was a therapist that I would talk to, which I've never really thought about that before. I never really thought about yeah the industry that we're in is a bit bizarre. Yeah. Um and I think that's why I've always had these weird boundaries that change sometimes. I like how much of my life do I show? I feel I should show to to be authentic, but if I show this, then I can never get it back. Yeah. Um so I've I'm constantly I I even had that conversation with um my my other half about oh God, like yeah, I'm happy we don't show our daughter 'cause look Brooklyn Beckham. I'm like, no, we're not we're not the Beckham's. But you ca you know, you're you're constantly thinking how much do I give or how much do I not? And um it's hard because I'm like I want to talk about it and be open, but then I get really scared that someone will judge me for doing something the wrong way and mentally I'm too sensitive for that. You don't strike me as someone who's mentally sensitive when it comes to judgment. I think everyone is though. Do you not like uh like cause you you I don't think you are, but I bet you have that bit. If someone says something about you and it's something you already think about yourself, yeah, that's hard. Stunning. Stunning. Agreed. Yeah. Successful, fantastic . But do you know what I mean? Like sometimes and I think if something's someone said something about my child, yeah. I would kill them. Well plus you became famous at a time when there was just Up Skirting. Yeah. I was like Amy Winehouse was in Camden, and I'd see her be followed around by all these paps, and I remember interviewing Britney Spears and just being really upset by the interview because I'm a huge fan of Britney and I love Britney, obsessed with Britney. Brittany is Queen. And I remember interviewing her, and she was dead behind the eyes. Like you know, when you're just like, hey, and and there was other women in the industry who weren't like that, but I could see, and that's she was she she was lovely and she was polite, but she wasn't like we weren't doing this. She wasn't well. No, she wasn't well. And did you see that a lot with younger pop stars when you were working at MTV? I remember like Duffy and Adele coming in around the same time, starting their careers and coming in for MTV. And I loved both of them. Um and look at Adele now, and like Duffy had horrific things happen to her and she had to stay away. And it's it's a really tricky, tough industry. That like who who makes it and who doesn't. And they both have equal talents. And I've seen how women are spoken about, and I've seen what happens to women who are successful . Um so I think there was a bit of me at the very start of my career that wasn't s wasn't famous but saw what was happening to other women. Like remember like Lily Allen coming in when the everyone was like, Oh, she's gonna throw a breakup, don't talk about it, or try and get something out of it. And I was like, No, like she's here to talk about a music, let her talk about a music. But I could see how women were spoken about as opposed to when like the male artists would come in. So I think I had a real education in that period of time. Yeah. Um and I I only started MTV just I did I did Amy's like the obituary that they did for MTV and that that was a really weird you know, I'm working on an entertainment show and then sort of it was weird it was so I think I just saw how women were spoken about so I thought I'm not really gonna give any more away about my not that people cared about me, but as it the the least if you don't give to Then your husband is a comedian. Obviously we know he is. I just need a little bit of lightness in my life. But he taught he presumably goes on tour and has to talk quite intimately about his life, about his marriage, about being a dad. Yeah. Did he have the same sort of boundaries as you yeah, he we did speak now, it's changed, Catherine, because when I was always you know the the Unspoken Rule was like you don't talk about me and we don't talk about each other at all. At all. And then 'cause in the beginning you guys wouldn't even do red carpets together or anything. And then it's like wow. I think 'cause I'd kind of had my own career going on and then people I spent a lot of my life people trying to guess who I was going out with or you know, if I spoke to a famous actor, I must have slept with them because that's what my life comes down to. Yeah. Um so I think I fought that a lot . Um and I think it's really it's nice to have your own identity. So I was like, please don't mention me in your comedy. And then it's hard because that's all your life is. And I was like, don't mention me unless I come across well. Yeah, yeah, yeah. And actually he I was my friend had gone, he was doing a work in progress, and my friend had been. And I hadn't listened to his stuff because I know I should show more an interest should show more of an interest, but there's other things going on. And my friend's like, you know, it's a lot about you. I was like, What what? Oh no. But then I forget that like I guess as a successful comedian, you have to speak about what you know. But there's still boundaries there. There's boundaries for him as well. And you guys have how long you've been married now? Like six years? Yeah, 2020, yeah. Yeah. And I think you guys have done it in a really nice way, because now you host the podcast together and you have a few little projects together. We see you together. Yeah. Sometimes, but it still feels like you are being private. We constantly have these conversations going, oh now because we do this BBC thing, does it mean I mean we do we don't talk about our relationship. It comes up sometimes, but we're talking about crime. He's got a degree in law, I've a degree in journalism. I would do the podcast with him if we weren't married. But it works out really well because the studio is in our house. So f it's convenient that he lives there. That's mainly why I do it with him. But it does you have to constantly rethink what what are our boundaries then? What does that mean? And I think when I worked on Love Island, you know, there's that I think there was this ownership. I remember one journalist going, Well, you know, you both work on this show and we got married ourselves and didn't tell anyone and there was this disgust that we owed it because we worked on this show. Um so I think I think depending on what's going on, those boundaries probably have to I don't know. It's a lot it's also I'm like I just want to get on with my job. I don't want to have to think about I overthink too much. I'm being too sensible. It is sensible. But I I don't I think people would be surprised to know that you think about it as much as you do. And I see why. Because you know you've been through the system so much. I've seen women being torn down for giving too much away and it's affected me probably more than people realize, you know? Anyone who's looked at Britney Spears dead in the dead eyes would move forward and go, maybe I'm not gonna put my daughter all over social media. It's like it's a different world. Do you feel at least more confident in your own skin now than those early days when you started getting paped and started getting famous? Yeah. I am I remember I remember one of my first big jobs um was I'm a Celebrity Get Me Out of Here Now. So I was on MTV and then they used to do this after show um called I'm a Celebrity Getting Out of Here Now it's so long but it was live and it was like getting it was big ratings of that time for the after show and we I remember getting that job and going to Australia and being like okay this is this is a big step because MTV was great but I kinda did a lot of stuff under the radar um even though I was shooting every day and and that show was I got a lot more attention. Yeah. And I got told there was paps on the beach where I was staying. So I never went to the beach. 'Cause I was really paranoid about being, you know, papped in like on my bikini or, you know. And I I just wished I went and and swam. Because a bit of me is like, I wish I just went into the water and swam. Yeah. Because the sea looked lovely. But um I was just a bit conscious of that. And there are some jobs. I think a lot of people don't realize that there are some jobs that for some reason are more attracti ve to the tabloid culture than other jobs. Like if you are on a family show, like a Saturday night, like strictly, for example, all of a sudden there are paps at your door for some reason. Yeah. And is Love Island a show like that, you would say? And Yeah, Love Island and Strictly. I did both of them. And you notice in that time uh yeah, does you know people outside your house and your front door. And I remember being really embarrassed , you know, strictly I was so excited to go on, but I lived in a um an apartment in Camden and my next door neighbor was in her seventies. 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And that's where the Pilot TV Podcast comes in, your essential guide to every show that matters. Each week we sift through the very best in Prestige TV to help you decide what's worth spending your time on and what isn't. So join me, James Dyer, as well as venerable TV critics Boyd Hilton and Kay Rivero and let us help take the stress out of your downtime, the Pilot TV podcast. Because you can't watch everything So you've been really outspoken about all kinds of things surrounding like autonomy and women's rights and all the rights stuff. But also um how did you get involved in the upskirting campaign? Yeah. Well I think it was, you know, in Camden and all these different brilliant artists and strong, successful women coming in and you would see the pap shots in magazines the next day up their skirt. Yeah. Like and it and it was really shameful, like shame on you for wearing a skirt, as opposed to shame on the photographers who would lie on the ground and take pictures of the skirt. And I remember once a picture of me getting out of a car and it was so embarrassing . And they took a picture as I was stepping out and it was and I normally I speak up but I was too afraid to say anything because I'm like if I say something it'll draw attention to the photo, so I'm not gonna say anything. And also I I I remember speaking to a um another uh person in the industry who I have huge respect for, who's a bit older than me and who I love and admire and look up to, and I remember saying to her, Oh God, like this is horrible and she went, Oh no, this is just part of it. And I realized, oh, the older generation of women are so used to this and so stuck n not that she was saying it out of a bad it wasn't out of badness, but I said, oh, you're so blinded and you're so used and accustomed to being treated this way that, you think it's normal. I've come over from Ireland kind of fresh face going, this isn't right. Um, and actually, it was nearly like the next generation, it was Gina Martin who reached out to me because I had spoken a little bit about it and I realized it wasn't just something that happened to women in the industry, it was happening to like little girls in their school uniforms on buses. And it happened to a girl Gina at a festival. Um and there's actually there was at that point there was no law. Um and she brought in a law, the Boyism Act. And and then I realized, oh God, actually you do have more power. And even these women who I I respect and inspire me, but because they've been in this so long, don't realise actually, you know, change is possible and we can break the way a system has worked for so long. Would you consider yourself to be an optimist in general? Yeah. I'm deaf because otherwise I probably still wouldn't be doing this. I think that health is really gonna come into these results. So we know how you de-stress by like talking about true crime with your husband and doing lots of investigative journalism and mixing it up. How important would you say a healthy marriage is and having people in your life who love you? Does that bring you stress? Because for me, I think having all these kids and a husband has aged me. I don't. Yeah. Like do you remember when you used to live just by yourself? Oh my god. Those were the days. And you could just and football wasn't on and you didn't have to you just I just find like I've a gorgeous um other half. Like he's gorgeous and like we kill each other. Like no one people go we never fight. I don't get that. I like a fight. Oh you fight. Oh god, yeah. They do say it's good for you. Yeah. Do you not fight? He's more of a stonewaller, which is I think really toxic. If he gets upset, he doesn't really have the language to Oh great. Right. Do you do that I do that thing where I just like talk so much at him that he just kind of eventually will go, okay, yeah, yeah. Oh good. So he rolls over. So Auntie Teresa comes out and you guys like get loud, you fight, fight. Like over silly things. Wow. Like over ge uh I I I feel like I'll have a conversation. Maybe this is a I don't want to generalize men . And he'll forget that conversation happened. Yeah. I'm like, no, we talked about this. And he'll be like, No we didn't like we did. Which is why I love the podcast sometimes. Because sometimes you're like, Can you actually rewind? Remember I know I know it's not gonna go on air, but we talked about it during the break. Can you see Oh so you'll pull up receipts from the podcast. Yeah. Yeah. Okay. Um and you think that being a mother has aged me. Yes. Hugely. Um I think I think what being pregnant feels something about being pregnant that like I love my body. Do you like there's something about you feel maybe because you have this like young fetus that with like all this fresh collagen inside you, just you know, plumping you up. And that's probably the most I've ever loved my body. Um and then afterwards when you're breastfeeding, it just literally like you feel like a prune. Like you feel like you're drained. But it is weird for someone, probably I'm guessing, who's so autonomous and you're always moving around and you're doing loads of things, especially for an independent person. I found that pregnancy was a little bit arresting because you don't have that autonomy, your body's being used for a purpose. Yeah. You and your husband both get the same result that you share, but you put in so much more. All of it. But there was a bit about, you know, we as women we make the babies, like we build them, we we like do all that. So for over nine months, you know to watch what you eat, what you drink. Then you go through all the sickness. I was on air interviewing someone, Samantha Baines. I'll like I'll big shout out. She was on a comedian. She was on the show. I looked at her and asked her a question and I remember just walking off air live, vomiting into a c a cornflake box. Live. Yeah, but people didn't realize because she just kept she s knew that I think she thought they didn't I was pregnant that I was hungover. But she rolled with it and I remember coming back on and I just remember thinking, pregnancy is fucking hard. As much as as much as I say, you know, it keeps you youthful. I was like, as youthful in a I feel like I'm hungover and I haven't had the night out. And then you do that and then you have to give birth to the baby. Mm-hmm. And after that, then you gotta feed the baby. Mm-hmm. I was like, surely he could do one of those things.. None of those Just one of them. Just one of them. Was this television or radio with Samantha? Oh no, radio, radio. Okay. So she just kept talking until I came back. And I went. Anyway, and so tell me about your tour. I mean you've been in situations where you're hosting on you know Oh yeah. Yeah, and then you go off and you vomit and you come back on again. But again in London I think you're right, people assume you're hungover. I'd be on my hands and knees in the underground vomiting. People don't bat an eye, they're like another drunk bitch. The amount of cars I used to get, because I used to get when I'm pregnant like very like motion sickness and I'd have to open up out you know the the driver the ads on the and just vomit out and close it and I just like that lower whip more. That's why people think I'm a party here. Yeah, they're just upscurning while you're being sick. Yeah. Like crowning. That's what they deserve. A little crowning shot. Yeah. Can you imagine if they actually saw that? That would that would scar them for life. That's what they need. So instead of the gym , physically you must be doing something, even to relax. I I love like Pilates. Okay. I don't do sport. No sport. I'm not a sporty person. Okay. I'm an active person. I like I'm active in that I'm like my aunties in that I don't sit still, I potter around the house. Yeah. Even if I'm watching something, like I don't sit still. Or I I remember my I used to live in a house share, five of us at university, and sometimes my friend would come in from her room into my room, lie on my bed to chat, and I would just pot her like I she would just say, sit down so we can talk. I'm like, no, I need to do a million things as I'm talking to you. So I just pot her. I feel that burns calories. And are you one of these people who self diagnoses I think everyone in this industry probably has ADHD to some degree. But I also feel like we're living in an age where if you don't it's gonna kick in because I think with phones and and that's something I'm still debating with how much I'm on my phone or I'll go on my phone and I'm scrolling Instagram and I only meant to check an email. And I think all of that isn't very good for you know how we function. And I think that's definitely probably affected me. But I think a lot of people in this particular industry, there's a reason why a lot of people are ADHD. Yeah. But you're drawn to it. Yeah. It depends on who you are and if you can handle it. Like the language that our generation use, you're like, Oh, I knit a lot they would might call that stimming. You're like, I I just potter around. They'd be like, yeah, now it all makes sense. No, I'm I definitely I'm not diagnosed, but I definitely have a form of ADHD.. Yeah, well it's good It's worked for it. But it gets gets shit done sometimes. It's true. You can multitask. That's what we used to call it. Yeah. Um and then what about what do you eat? You've been pescatarian for twenty-five years? Yeah, so I gave up red meat when I was fifteen . I it was the year that I think Babe the film came out. I just think when you the animals talk. I know. So I just remember I remember we used to spend I don't know if ever did this, but um we used to go to the Gwell talked in Ireland during the summer to learn Irish. No. Um so you'd go down the west of Ireland for like two or three weeks and also sometimes to kiss boys. Whoa. Um because I went to an old girl school so that's when you'd see boys. Um and you'd so you'd stay in with a banantee, which is the woman of the house, and it'd be like ten girls in one house. And they would normally be on a farm because that's the areas where they speak Irish. Yeah. Um and I I remember they'd you know, you'd get your dinner every day and there'd be like 'cause I I grew up in like a town like near a city. So I'd look out and I'd see the field with all the cows and then you know, after a week I'm like, oh thought there was ten cows, and then you eat your burger. And then it was that I think it was just that clicking of what I was eating. Yeah. Because you don't really think about it. No. And then I saw the film, so then I stopped eating red meat and I ate chicken and fish because I didn't care about the chicken and ducks in that film. They they weren't as nice. Then there's a really stupid reason to giving it up. Then about five years ago, four years ago, that TV show on I forgot to stop watching TV. That TV show came out called Fresh with Sebastian Stan and Daisier Gargen. Did you see that film? Yes. Um not to give away, but that this is the premise of the show. That um he basically kidnaps women. W women to have a to- You can see why I'm the way I am. I need to stop watching these things. But he kidnaps women and then um slices part of their flesh off to put it in like a hello fresh kind of vibe and send it to rich men who like to eat their flesh. And it I was eating a chicken corma at the time. Oh god. And then I never ate chicken again. That's great. So that's my yeah. So and I' thenm now in now Pescat arian, so that probably will change eventually. But I really like that. See a film about fish. Finding Nemo. I'm not watching Finding Nemo. No. Oh my gosh. And that's probably happens. I do think there's health benefits to it as well. I like I obviously wasn't hugely keen on it in the first place. No. Um and I love I think some people have to eat meat if their body craves it or they don't eat the the right balance of food. But I love vegetables and pulses and things like that. You don't want to be canceled for being a pescatarian. You don't want to offend people. I get it. No. Yeah, you can have those. They don't have personality. Thank you. No, but my stepdad, uh, he does not believe that we should be ing esting animal protein at all. He thinks it leads to like Alzheimer's and different things. So there are definitely a health benefit. Well you look at like our our teeth and stuff like that. Like our teeth aren't sharp the way like Mick My Dogs is. So yeah, I definitely think I think living in London has made it easier for me not to eat meat. Yeah. But I think when I decided at 15 to stop eating meat, my mother was like, what the hell am I gonna do with you? Thank you, Linda McCartney, for your frozen section and your frozen protein. That's it. You were a trailblazer. I was. Now every fifteen year old's in their kitchen refusing to eat their mother's meat. I think it's time to find out your biological age. Well it sounds to me like it's going to be very young. I just picture you as eld. It's not. I think you have elderly habits. Yeah. You like to knit, you like the sherry, but those are not things that are going to age you. Those are those I will consider for the purpose of data just hipster vibes. Okay, but I feel you might be let down though. I'll be really shocked. Okay. I'm I'd I'd like to get an older age because I feel does that mean well, is it your bot yeah, I guess it's only your body, not your mind? 'Cause I've got an older mind, but I don't. How old do you feel if you had to pick a number? So I have this thing where like I don't do you believe in like old souls? Like my daughter is an old soul. My husband is a young soul. You can tell. Like he hasn't be he he hasn't been on this earth a lot of times. Okay. Well, I feel like my daughter has. And I feel like I have, maybe not as long as she has. So I I fe feelel yeah, my soul is 'cause maybe that's why I overthink things so much. It'd be nicer to have a younger soul, 'cause then I wouldn't be bugged down by life as much. Right. But I think this is only gonna go in my physical ability, isn't it? Because so yeah, we'll see Well we would like to invite Dr. Nicola Conlon, the lady science expert . This episode of What's My Age Again is sponsored by MedExpress, the UK online pharmacy. If you've been trying to manage your weight but feel like nothing's really working, MedExpress connects you with UK registered clinicians who assess your situation and create a treatment plan to support your weight management goals. With over 1.5 million customers, MedExpress is one of the country's leading online pharmacies, and they offer access to licensed, evidence-based treatment under medical supervision. And the whole process happens from your laptop or phone. There's no need for face-to-face appointments. They'll post your approved treatment to your door each month. You don't have to worry about getting locked into a contract or subscription either. You can cancel any time. 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